Patient and public involvement in research
Reasons for staying involved and wider benefits
As we have described elsewhere, people got involved initially for a mixture of reasons, including wanting to help others and improve medical science, as well as possible personal benefits. Not surprisingly these same motivations were still at the heart of why they continued being involved. We also asked people whether they had discovered other reasons or benefits they had not anticipated, and whether their motivations had changed.
As well as making things better for others, Peter has met interesting people, used his skills and enjoyed himself. It has given him a sense of control after having cancer.
As well as making things better for others, Peter has met interesting people, used his skills and enjoyed himself. It has given him a sense of control after having cancer.
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Maggie’s initial motivation was personal fascination with the research, but now she’s inspired by knowing it can help others.
Maggie’s initial motivation was personal fascination with the research, but now she’s inspired by knowing it can help others.
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Hadn't a clue. I just knew that it wasn't so much getting involved to add a patient perspective initially. And I suppose when I first got involved with the coalition and then with Breakthrough, it was more to do with improving services and treatments for patients, and it was a sort of progression from that into the actual research. And when I got involved in the research it was more to do with learning about it and the fascination rather than adding a patient perspective, that grew from it. And I think it's been very inspiring, no, not inspiring, very motivational, realising how much it is appreciated by the researchers and how you can make a difference and it's an important difference and it makes the research much more valuable. But it also means that the research is actually for patient benefit and that the patients who take part in the research are properly looked after.
Mary is passionate about encouraging researchers to take user involvement seriously.
Mary is passionate about encouraging researchers to take user involvement seriously.
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What are the things that you tend to look for as a service user when you see a research proposal?
Well, how are they using service users in the research? Are they just using them as subjects or have they got, have they before, had a little panel together to bring to, with service users and themselves to think about what the research proposals should be and so on? And so it's, for me, I'm a bit fixated about money, and if they are being valued for their time, or even better if they are valued for their time by being a researcher, a co-researcher, a co-applicant on the bid as well. And how, sometimes people are put as co-applicants and you wonder if they even know they're there as co-applicants. But if, to me it's fairly obvious if people are being listened to and valued properly, or if they're just there as a tokenistic thing.
Dave A has met some amazing people. It has boosted his self-esteem and he feels valued. Occasionally it’s frustrating but usually positive.
Dave A has met some amazing people. It has boosted his self-esteem and he feels valued. Occasionally it’s frustrating but usually positive.
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Making a difference is the important thing. Putting something back. From a personal point of view, you, when you feel engaged by these groups you feel as if your opinion is. You’re made to feel that your opinion is important. Then it has a massive impact on your self-esteem, and the role that you have in society, the fact that you can help to improve the treatment of patients within the NHS is a massive thing.
Other personal benefits, I mean, just the chance, there are some of the people that I’ve had a chance to meet as a result of my involvement is amazing and people from the Patient Carer Community, but also to rub shoulders with some very eminent clinicians and even politicians at times, has been, has been very, very good.
As I say, I’m accepted at different levels by different groups of people, but you would expect that anyway in a broad society, not everybody is going to be happy with what you do or what your input is.
But there have been times when I’ve walked out of meetings that I wished I never even bothered going near, but it’s been a minority of times, and even on those occasions it turns out afterwards, that, you know, your presence has made some difference to the meeting.
Sitting at the table with well-known experts has been wonderful and has built Janice’s confidence.
Sitting at the table with well-known experts has been wonderful and has built Janice’s confidence.
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I think perhaps initially it did because as it developed into something very positive I think I increased my confidence. And I suppose when you're sitting on committees with people who are leaders in their field. In fact on the ethics committee I was on, the first multi-centre research ethics committee, the statistician there, I mean I had his book at home on my bookshelf. Wow I'm sitting next to a man whose book I use, you know [laughs]. And other, you know, names that I knew. And then finding that I could work with them, so that was very good for, and them listening and taking account. So, I suppose it built up my confidence. And I would say that applying for things like the General Medical Council work, I felt confident to do that because I was used to working with clinicians and well-qualified people, and used to accepting that if I'd done my homework and expressed myself that I would be listened to, and that I should be listened to. So I suppose it's, I haven't thought about it like that before, but yes, yeah. Because I haven't had any negative experiences, you see, so it's all been positive, so I suppose inevitably, unless I was completely arrogant it would have, it would have fed in to me feeling better about myself wouldn't it? Yes.
Beryl enjoys the friendships with other people on the group who’ve had cancer.
Beryl enjoys the friendships with other people on the group who’ve had cancer.
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The main benefit I feel is that it gives me an opportunity to talk to people that have had cancer and they’re all positive and some carers come to the group - and then obviously understand what research is going on. I think we’re just a tiny proportion of all the research that’s going on and as I said I just like it because I can go up and they’re a really friendly bunch and we get on really well, and it’s not doom and gloom when everybody’s talking about their cancer.
Margaret loves the science and admires the researchers she meets.
Margaret loves the science and admires the researchers she meets.
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What has really blown my mind too is doing lab tours and seeing the months and years that those scientists put in at looking at a little thing that size of cells, looking for something, at something and perhaps after years their question isn't answered, it's shown not to be an answer. And I just admire their passion for what they're doing. So I admire, I've come to admire the researchers because I'm… it's more than just like a job, I've come to see, to the majority of them, they are, they're passionate about what they do and why they do it, and I would just like to support them in that and that's what I would say about PPI. I enjoy it; I mean why would you be doing something you didn't enjoy? Do you know what I mean? [Laughs].
And so yeah I enjoy it immensely, I would say to anybody to, to think about getting involved in research, it's not frightening, it's a bit off-putting at the beginning because you're hearing all the acronyms and all the terminology and it's like a different, you know, a different language but eventually you come to understand enough of the language to be able to understand what's going on, and I would say whoever you are, you've something to give in PPI because you are unique as a person and you bring your skills, your life skills and all our life skills are different and that's why it's important to have a whole range of people involved in PPI so that benefits research and benefits people at the other end of the scale. So yeah don't ask me that question because I'm very passionate about it [laughs], I'm surprised how passionate I am about it.
Really?
If somebody had said to me three years ago, you know, when I said oh yes to this whatever this PPI was I would have, I…yes, totally, totally thrown myself even at the passion and the understanding that has come about, and you might think that's very strange for somebody who’s worked in the NHS all these years, but I would not have had the, or a new research happen, but not the understanding of the importance the benefit, how nothing moves forward without it or nothing will change without it. Yeah so I would invite everybody – put your toe in and if you feel you want to put two toes in the water of research that's alright. If you want to put, immerse yourself in it, that's also OK but you'll find that people, there are PPI leads, there are researchers, there are other PPI people who are willing to share what, the knowledge that they've got already and that's a great support mechanism, and you do feel as though you're doing, let's be honest, you're doing something of value. You'd be wrong not to acknowledge that, that you get something back from doing that yeah.
Helen loves involvement so much it has become ‘a slight addiction’. But she would like more feedback on how she’s made a difference.
Helen loves involvement so much it has become ‘a slight addiction’. But she would like more feedback on how she’s made a difference.
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It's like reading the first chapter of a really good book and you just, you have to read the next chapter and then, before you know it, you're half way through, and if somebody's ripped out the last page then that's the end of your life. And yeah, it does come to that kind of feeling. You just have - somebody tells you, "We've got this research project going on," and you know they don't even have to mention about whether they want people to be involved. But, just hearing about somebody else's research and people are always so passionate about their research, and you do get drawn in by that passion and excitement and you want to find out; you want to help; you want to know; you want to be in there with your hands dirty finding out, yeah.
That was a nice analogy about the last page being ripped out of the book because, that's sort of like when you're not given the publications or the feedback or the outcomes from it.
Yeah, yeah that's it; you never know what's happened at the end, yeah. Actually that – yeah, that is quite annoying and even, you know, I don't actually think I've ever had anything come back to me in terms of published output from anything that I have done.
Actually yeah, I must chase up a few of those and see if they would, but.
And do you think that's what you'll do, you'll contact them to say?
I think I will actually, having spoken to you now. I mean this has been very useful for me as well. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that I'm chronically involved in PPI [laughs], I couldn't give it up if I was given treatment for it. And I think I - it's given me a lot to think about, it really has; and a lot of assumptions that I had made about my own involvement which I think it might be useful to challenge as well. Yes, I think I will go back to all of those people I've worked with and all of those people who have sent me things to read and say, "I did this for you five years ago, what happened?" Because, it would be nice to find out yeah. Thank you, yeah [laughs].
Working with some very bright people has filled a gap in Charles’s life after retirement. It would be ‘icing on the cake’ to learn later about the difference it’s made.
Working with some very bright people has filled a gap in Charles’s life after retirement. It would be ‘icing on the cake’ to learn later about the difference it’s made.
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Tom never expected to meet so many interesting people. It gave him a new direction in life when cancer stopped him working.
Tom never expected to meet so many interesting people. It gave him a new direction in life when cancer stopped him working.
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Did you ever think this was what you'd be doing in our life?
Oh absolutely not, it’s something I'd never ever dreamed of, of anything like this so it was a total life change, you know, after , after having lung cancer, you know, a different direction totally. You know, grateful that I was still alive in the first instance and totally grateful as well that I was still able to get involved in something like cancer research. Yeah it’s been good. I've enjoyed it.
Dave G has gained self-confidence, knowledge and great enjoyment. In retirement he has finally found the right job and feels appreciated.
Dave G has gained self-confidence, knowledge and great enjoyment. In retirement he has finally found the right job and feels appreciated.
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And did you ever think that you would be doing this in your retirement?
No, no. I think my life has completely opened out since I retired. In fact I think this is about the best part of my life actually.
Really?
Yeah.
Why's that?
Well, I joined, I joined the Air Force at sixteen, became a State Registered Nurse. I've never really liked nursing to be perfectly honest with you. Became a teacher. Perfectly honest with you, I've never really liked teaching; I couldn't wait to leave a classroom. I should have been a librarian or an archivist. I'm an introvert so I don't relate well to groups and people. You know, stick me in an archive filing documents and, you know, shelving books and I'd be perfectly happy. I was in the wrong job. And this has really been something I've really liked doing. I felt at home doing it. And I felt people appreciate it as well and it's lovely to feel appreciated, it really does. If I was paid you wouldn't get that appreciation, you wouldn't get that, I don't wallow in the gratitude but it's nice for people to think, 'Well thanks Dave, you're doing that and that's a good job well done.' And that goes a long way.
Sharon has developed confidence and skills but she isn’t sure yet how this might feed into her working life. A career in involvement doesn’t seem possible.
Sharon has developed confidence and skills but she isn’t sure yet how this might feed into her working life. A career in involvement doesn’t seem possible.
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I just went on a time management course last week and in the course the speaker, the lecturer was talking about the rocks in your jar and what are the important things. So really you would expect my important, one of my rocks to be my career. And I was thinking actually the confidence that I've gained from doing all this work should be translated into my career, but that hasn't happened yet. So I keep thinking that will be – and maybe you don't have the time if you're on the time management course to. The rocks that you put in are your children; your juggling; your whole life – it's whatever you choose to make your rocks. So no, I do think I'm actually missing a career rock in that jar but , so I'd have thought the confidence I gained would have helped me to have worked to find a way to a career. Because actually there is no career development in being a consumer rep or doing PPI work. There is if you're the employed person doing the, like for example, the MCRN administrators probably or the people who run the MCRN [Medicines for Children Research Network] probably with them this career. So for them developing PPI probably is a career profession for them. But actually the PPI members I don't think there's any career progression from that role.
Involvement has rebuilt Rosie’s confidence and supported her recovery from mental illness. Now it has become her career.
Involvement has rebuilt Rosie’s confidence and supported her recovery from mental illness. Now it has become her career.
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And what have the sort of highlights of it been or what have you got from it or has benefited you?
Oh goodness. Well I think, I mean I think I've got lots of personal benefits from it. I mean in a way I've got a new career out of doing this. I've turned, being a mental health service user into a career option which is rather odd. So yes, you know, so I've, well I think in the first place I, you know, it really supported my recovery actually, you know, my sense of, you know, it changed or helped to repair my sense of who I was and my , you know, helped me to believe that I had skills again and that I could do things and you know, so it had a lot of very personal benefits I think at the beginning and gave me something to do with my time that was more interesting than watching daytime television or you know, whatever. So yeah, you know so I think there were a lot of personal benefits and, you know, I've had two full-time jobs on the back of this and now I'm doing a PhD which is, I get funding for on the back of this you know.
Brin thought involvement would aid his physical stroke recovery, but it has also helped him psychologically in a way he never imagined.
Brin thought involvement would aid his physical stroke recovery, but it has also helped him psychologically in a way he never imagined.
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And in what ways do you think that the PPI has actually helped?
I think PPI has given me a focus – something that as a teacher, and I was quite willing to go the extra mile to support my students, and so now all I've done is swapped my sixteen and seventeen year old young people for a wider variety of ages and helped them, you know, I can use all of the skills that I did have as a teacher to support people who have had strokes or acquired brain injuries, to help them to understand what's happened to them which in turn, once they've embraced that reality they can then start to move on themselves and it's just so rewarding to see people blossom once they've grasped the nettle. And I'm quite sure that you, you can't improve until you've done that and nobody is going to wave a magic wand for you to get better, you've got to do most of it yourself and you can make your own luck which is what PPI does and what it's done for me, you know, it really has created an environment where I can flourish in a completely different way, a way that I would never have believed possible, just four years ago.
When Maxine’s husband became very ill, her involvement work helped her take her mind off the worry.
When Maxine’s husband became very ill, her involvement work helped her take her mind off the worry.
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I suppose those things in life kind of interrupt you know the PPI thing and
Yeah, yeah. In a way it, I was able to cope with that in a strange sort of way because I was Chairman at the time for, and I went on for another two years and I only missed one meeting. It helped me cope because it kind of took me away from it sometimes, so it wasn't just always the full weight of his illness. I could escape into something that was equally absorbing so that I somehow managed to cope with it better. I can't explain why but it, if I just didn't have anything else I think I would have been really bowed down. I don't think I would have managed at all. So yeah it's been an amazing, amazing life, but I really think it is, it has been good for me doing that. I never envisaged doing it and it's good that we can do it, you know.
Derek is now healthier and better informed generally. He feels able to ask the right questions about his health and the evidence for treatments.
Derek is now healthier and better informed generally. He feels able to ask the right questions about his health and the evidence for treatments.
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Changed me as patient, and other patients. A lot of what we put together in this strange world of involvement or even worse, PPI. And I say worse because too often I see people say they've got a PPI strategy or a PPI plan, which is about involving people in research. But really it's about better research and it's about making a difference to people's lives, and too often we forget that last part. But, there's another element that doesn't get touched into, involvement that changes people's lives because of the involvement not of the research. And it's something I'm having a growing interest in. And if anybody who's watching this, please let us know more and more about this. But I know I'm a better patient, I'm a better person because getting involved has made me look at my health. I now am a healthier person because I now am interested in what the latest research is, not just in my head and neck. So, I will read stories that help me about swallowing or saliva glands and speaking when you can't have enough breath. So, I'm interested in those and I now know how to read some of those documents and find out where they are because they're not often things that you just immediately turn to.
They've changed me in, and because I'm more actively involved with the Health Service I know about things like, and I'm laughing because I'm in the middle of this now, it's something called From Couch to Potato – no that's not really what it is – from couch to 5K, where I've now taken up running, and I'm taking up running on an evidence based programme that helps me to run 5K. And it's an evidence based programme because when I tried it before I gave up because I tried too hard and now I'm doing it. It gives me breaks. Its evidence, it's brilliant. But it's helped me fundamentally as a cancer patient because when I'm out there and I meet somebody else who's a cancer patient – my cousin was diagnosed. I'm giving him advice, not on the research, but I'm saying, "Ask about research that's going on. Ask about whether your clinician is research focused." Because when I go to a doctor, I don't want to know that they're giving me the research that was years old.
Involvement can become very time-consuming and tiring, and it may all get too much for people. Sometimes the difficulties and frustrations may make people give up. Neil got involved to help his recovery after a stroke, and was now starting to reduce his level of activity again. He said, ‘Socially, emotionally and intellectually it's been very helpful. And that was the reason why I did it and fine, when I feel I've recovered fully I might not bother with it, it just depends.’ Hazel knew of people who had dropped out when involvement didn’t live up to expectations. Jennifer was not volunteering for anything new in one of the groups she’s involved in until her expenses came through – the delay in payment made her feel undervalued. Francesco was frustrated by the feeling that processes for selecting people were not always open and transparent, and that the same people were favoured each time.
Several people who had themselves been involved in many different roles wondered if – much as they enjoyed it – there would come a time for them to step down (see ’Long-term involvement and expertise’). But others found the more they became involved the more they enjoyed it and wanted to continue their involvement.
Helen loves involvement but worries she is losing her lay perspective. She would like to move on to a paid role.
Helen loves involvement but worries she is losing her lay perspective. She would like to move on to a paid role.
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These and other issues are discussed further in ‘Long term involvement and expertise’ and ‘Difficulties and barriers to research involvement’.
Last reviewed July 2017.
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