Intensive care: Experiences of family & friends
Receiving information and news from doctors
When a family member or friend is in ICU, people often know little about a why a person has become ill so quickly. They are dependent on doctors and nurses to tell them what is happening and what to expect. Here people talk about receiving information and news from doctors. Everyone is different and experiences ranged from those who were very happy with the information they received, and how it had been given, to those who felt disappointed.
When the patient first became ill, many relatives and close friends didn't know what was wrong with them, why they'd become so ill so quickly or how seriously ill they'd actually been. If the patient had an accident, they usually hadn't known the extent of their injuries or how serious these had been (see 'Emergency admissions'). When the patient was being seen in Accident and Emergency, many had waited desperately for any news from doctors. Before the patient had been admitted to ICU, they'd usually spoken with a doctor, learnt how ill the patient had been and that the illness had been life-threatening. Many still hadn't known, at this stage, exactly what was wrong. Once the patient was admitted to ICU, most people had visited them every day and waited for news on whether the patient would survive and, if they did, whether they'd be left disabled, brain damaged or paralysed. In the early stages, even the doctors hadn't been able to answer all these questions and the wait had been extremely traumatic.
Once the doctors started getting test results back and seeing how the patient responded to treatment, they'd been able to give some information to relatives and close friends, though often very little in the early stages. Many people said they felt doctors had been honest about what they'd known and hadn't known and had explained as much as they could. Most had been happy with the way medical information had been explained to them by doctors and felt it had been given honestly, clearly and compassionately.
Doctors were happy to answer all his questions and phoned him to explain exactly what was wrong with his wife as soon as they'd found out themselves.
Doctors were happy to answer all his questions and phoned him to explain exactly what was wrong with his wife as soon as they'd found out themselves.
What kind of questions did you ask them [doctors]?
A number were related to the medical treatment because I mean one example was she arrested and when she recovered from that I wanted to know what had caused that. Her blood chemistry, potassium levels were wrong. And I wanted to know why they were wrong because they did a blood analysis regularly and the nurses were very good. They used to go through them with me. And according to the records her potassium levels had been within normal limits so why should this happen. Why should she have an arrest and have to go on another drug. And it was that sort of thing that I wanted to know about. And how long she would be on these particular medicines for. She developed a raging infection which, initially, could not be identified. I mean swabs were taken and microbiology was involved but of course she was on an all embracing antibiotic when she went in because of the lung infection she had got, so that was suppressing anything. And I wanted to know why it was that microbiology couldn't pick up what the root infection was because of the antibiotics she was on to keep infection to a minimum, they were suppressing it. And I was reassured that at some point or other this little microbe would rear its head and go to the parapet it would have it and, of course, it did.
And they were delighted to ring me up and tell me, 'We know what it is. We have got it' and of course antibiotics were prescribed and the infection was killed off. So it was that sort of thing that I was asking them and also she had to have haemofiltration. I mean she was, the euphemistic call it 'well perfused', she was oedematous really. She had to be haemofiltrated. And of course being me I wanted to know what had gone on and why this was happening to her body and they went to great pains, the doctors, to explain what had happened to her body system that had caused this sort of problem and how it's dealt with. So they were very good in explaining all that to me, but you see I would write in this diary, why has this happened, why has that happened and I was able to go and ask them and they didn't mind at all. They were only too happy to explain to me what they knew.
She never learnt why her husband got so ill so quickly, but felt ICU doctors always gave information and updates about his illness honestly and openly.
She never learnt why her husband got so ill so quickly, but felt ICU doctors always gave information and updates about his illness honestly and openly.
But I can say without the staff of Intensive Care I probably wouldn't have coped. They were superb and it is such a vocation because it can't have been easy, having me hanging round the bed for 20 hours a day and just going in and getting some sleep. But they were absolutely amazing.
What kind of information, support, how were they amazing?
They told me everything. I knew everything from every bleep because he was wired up. At one point I think he had nine or ten drips in and his heart monitor and the ventilator, which is very scary anyway. Because the best way I can describe it is sounding Darth Vader. And they explained everything they were doing. When they were taking bloods to check for things and what tests they were doing and the consultant spoke to me every day while I was there to explain what the next step was, and what it could be, and what it wasn't. I mean, every step of the way they did keep me informed. And any questions they answered.
What were your main questions at the time. Can you remember or'is it a blur?
No there were various things. It is like he had been fitting or having seizures as they say and they just had to keep him further sedated to try and stop those to begin with while the anti fitting drug kicked in. And it was things that I would ask like, 'Well is he actually fitting underneath what we can see inside', and things like that and the doctor explained that, 'No he hasn't had muscle relaxants, so if we didn't see him fitting he wasn't fitting' and things. And just, as I said, the actual diagnosis isn't paramount at that point.
Some said staff in ICU did everything they could to make the patient comfortable and help them improve. One woman said that a special bed had been ordered from another hospital for her critically ill friend. Although her friend had started improving and hadn't needed it, it reinforced for her that the ICU doctors had done everything they could to help the patient recover.
One father and daughter praised the advice they'd received from a doctor, who recommended they stay as emotionally balanced as they could amid the extreme highs and lows when patients continually improve and deteriorate. Most people said they'd appreciated clear communication, empathy, and news given in a direct, honest and compassionate way. They'd also liked the doctors who'd been approachable.
A few people who'd worked in the health field felt doctors had explained information in more detail once they'd learned they had a health background and were familiar with medical terms.
She is a pharmacist and was pleased doctors explained her husband's illness in lots of detail because it helped her make sense of what was happening to him and why.
She is a pharmacist and was pleased doctors explained her husband's illness in lots of detail because it helped her make sense of what was happening to him and why.
And they explained that he was going to be kept in a medical coma, to give his body a chance to recover. And they took us off to the office and sort of explained things. Spoke to one of the anaethetists and a couple of the nurses were there, the vicar was there, our friend was there. And then the anaesthetist went through the clinical side more, and explained what his physical state was like. And it was quite good in the fact that somehow he had, I guess from the ward staff up in the treatment centre, he found out I'm a pharmacist and that he explained in a reasonably technical manner, he just pitched it just right actually. Because I understood exactly what he was saying. And one of the nurses said to me afterwards, 'I was a little concerned because he seemed to be talking in quite technical terms and I was worried that you wouldn't understand'. I explained what I do and she says 'Well that all makes sense now.' And that particular nurse was actually a student nurse, she was part-way through a degree course, so like a student nurse, and then there was a senior staff nurse looking after [my husband], who explained everything that was going on.
Some people said they'd been happy with the care the patient had received but hadn't always understood what doctors had told them about the patient's illness. They felt doctors had sometimes used medical or technical terms without explaining them. A few said they'd been told the patient had been 'stable' or had 'a comfortable night' but wondered what that had really meant. Some said, if they hadn't understood information from doctors, they later asked nurses, who explained it more clearly and had more time to go into detail (see 'Nursing care').
A few people said they'd believed the patient had been improving only to learn hours or days later that the ill person had deteriorated again and could die. This had come as yet another shock because they'd assumed the worst had been over. One woman said that doctors had told her that her son was 'stable' when he was critically ill. She'd assumed he'd survived and had been extremely shocked when, a few days later, they'd told her he could still die. She also hadn't realised until much later that he'd been on a life support machine or ventilator and would have died without it.
At the time her son was ill she didn't know he was being kept alive by machines.
At the time her son was ill she didn't know he was being kept alive by machines.
Some said the patient had head or brain injuries and doctors gave them information about the patient's progress at every stage. They'd been told on several occasions that it had been too early to predict whether the ill person would be brain damaged and that recovery from head injuries was often long and slow. Two couples, however, both of whom had sons with brain injuries, had been disappointed in the attitudes of some doctors. One couple felt they'd been asked by a doctor to decide whether they'd wanted their son's life support machine switched off because he hadn't been responding and would be left in a persistent vegetative state (PVS). This is a condition in which the patient is severely brain damaged and totally unresponsive to any of their surroundings or other stimuli. At the time of the interviews relatives could not give consent but could express an absence of objection (assent) to a procedure being performed, unless they'd had power of attorney. Treatment decisions have to be based on medical evidence and taken in the best interest of the patient (see our section on family experiences of vegetative and minimally conscious states for more on 'best interest' decisions.)
Another couple said they were told that their son wasn't responding, would be brain damaged and that they shouldn't raise their hopes about progress. Both of these couples were disappointed when doctors dismissed their claims that their sons had shown signs of awareness, and both had felt it had been too early to predict how they'd recover after a brain injury. In both of these cases, the critically ill person recovered and was now living a healthy and full life. Like a few others, they felt parents know their children best and can often pick up things about them that other people can't.
In the early stages of a patient's critical illness, relatives and close friends are often under extreme stress as they wait by the patient's bedside for any news or signs of improvement. Under such stress, it is difficult to retain all the information given and, even what little information is given by doctors at the time, may feel inadequate or negative. One person we spoke to was an ICU doctor himself. When his father became critically ill, it reaffirmed for him just how important it was for doctors to communicate clearly, honestly and to repeat information because relatives and close friends were often under too much stress to retain information.
He found it hard to understand the information doctors gave him and to retain the information under stress.
He found it hard to understand the information doctors gave him and to retain the information under stress.
Husband: Like I say, they told me what was wrong, what they were doing, you know what I mean. They told me everything they were doing. They were doing this for a certain reason. This drug was for something else. But it was above my head, it was above me, you know what I mean. I couldn't understand it. There was sort of, it was, it was too much. I said to you, didn't I?
Wife Yes, because they -
Husband: I couldn't understand it.
Wife- they come out with the, the proper words.
Husband: I couldn't, it was too much for me to take on board. If somebody had put it in layman terms for me I would have been all right, I would have been fine.
Wife If they would say that, 'Oh, we're putting her on antibiotics to get -
Husband: But, you know.
Wife - rid of this infection' or... They didn't. They said they're putting me on'
Husband:Some -
Wife They'd say
The drug's name?
Wife: Yes.
Husband: Yes. You know, if they'd said, 'Oh, this tube's doing so-and so and this feed's doing...' you know what I mean, I'd have been all right. But it was all gobbledegook, it was, it was above my head, you know what I mean.
In the early stages, emotions are often running high and relatives and close friends may be clinging to any signs of hope and progress. Some people praised doctors who'd told them about the person's illness frankly, leaving no room for misunderstanding.
He praised one of the senior doctors who always told him about his wife's progress very directly and honestly.
He praised one of the senior doctors who always told him about his wife's progress very directly and honestly.
Husband: It was Professor [doctor's name] who discharged you [wife], didn't he? He was brilliant, you couldn't, oh he was a fantastic doctor, wasn't he?
Wife: He was, yes.
Husband: He was. There was nothing about that gentleman, he'd tell it to you bluntly, as it was, there was no middle line. He'd give you the bare facts and that was it, you know what I mean. There was nothing trying to cover things up. He told you exactly what it was, and that was it. Nothing, no, you know, you didn't have to say to him, 'Oh, give it to me straight'. It was straight, you know what I mean. There was no messing with him, was there?
Wife: No.
Husband:Eh? He told you straight.
Because he told you straight, you understood exactly what he meant?
Husband: Yes, yes, precisely. You know, there again on Intensive Care the doctors were coming round and they were saying, 'Oh, so-and-so-and-so'. It was above my head because I didn't understand what they were saying. But they were very good to me, you know what I mean. They tried to put it in layman terms so I did understand it. But with Professor [doctor's name] he was, you know what I mean, it was straight to the knuckle, wasn't it? And he'd just come in and say, you know, 'How are you?'
Wife: - when he said I could go home, he said, 'Are you looking forward to going?' He said, 'When you get home, you'll be.....
Husband:Yes, he did.
Wife: He said, 'You need to go straight home and straight to bed'. I couldn't even get up to bed. I laid on the settee and went to sleep.
Husband:Yes, that's what I liked about that man. He was straight up.
Wife: He told it to you straight.
Husband: There was no messing.
Some felt that a frank explanation had often felt too harsh, direct or negative. Others praised the skill and expertise of doctors but felt they didn't communicate news and information in an understanding or sympathetic way. Yet others had felt that the doctors communicated news to them in such negative terms, they'd been left with very little hope. Many felt that some doctors were better at communicating news than others and that some had been more negative than others, often 'painting a worst-case scenario'. One woman said she'd been very happy with the care and explanations doctors had given her about her husband's illness but one doctor, a locum, had been extremely negative and told her that her husband wouldn't survive. This had been very upsetting for the whole family, particularly as none of the other doctors had shared or expressed that opinion. Some said they'd been pleased with the way senior doctors and nurses had kept them informed and updated but felt some of the trainee doctors had been less skilled at communicating news or relating to them as people.
One participant, an ICU consultant whose father had been critically ill, said that ICU doctors have to strike a balance between giving information to relatives without raising their hopes at a time when the patient's survival is uncertain and could go either way. Often, doctors err on the side of caution rather than optimism.
Some people said they'd been confused at what they'd felt had been conflicting information from different doctors. Others said the news had seemed conflicting but, because the patient had deteriorated and improved so often, they hadn't been able to tell if this information had been confusing or the situation itself, which had been extremely uncertain and changeable.
Some doctors thought her sister-in-law had a chance of recovering when she was first admitted whereas others were less optimistic, and she found this slightly confusing.
Some doctors thought her sister-in-law had a chance of recovering when she was first admitted whereas others were less optimistic, and she found this slightly confusing.
At some point in the first week or so, when I thought things were very bad, I thought that it would be important that the doctors both talked to my husband, who was still going to be in America for the next three weeks really, and that I was there to talk to them as well. And my son came up with me and what we actually thought at that point was that they were going to ask our permission to stop the treatment. And when we got there, I think they had already spoken to my husband. And they were very nice and they explained to us the situation. They explained there were, different people said different things at different times. Because sometimes people would say, 'Oh, it is possible you can get better from these things. Yes, she'll probably be very uncomfortable because of the hip business for a long time, but it will be possible, she'll be able to go back to her flat. There's all sorts of therapy that you can have.' And then there were other people who said, 'Really the outcome is not going to be good. We're having such trouble keeping her blood pressure up.' And later on of course she developed multi-organ failure. But to begin with that wasn't the situation.
One woman felt quite angry because she'd been given conflicting information about whether her husband had MRSA. This is a bacterial infection that mainly occurs in people who are already ill in hospital and can be difficult to treat.
One woman's son-in-law and daughter had a car accident; he was in ICU and her daughter was on a ward. She said that communication between ICU and ward staff had been poor and her daughter had been given very little information about her husband's condition. When one particular consultant came on duty, however, this situation improved immensely.
Everyone is different and some people said they'd wanted as much information from doctors as possible while others hadn't. Some felt that that information was rarely volunteered but was given when asked. Some people had been disappointed by this. Others said they hadn't asked for much information, had trusted the staff and might not have understood the details anyway. Some people said they'd told doctors to give them as much information as possible and for them to be honest with them, whatever the news. One of these people was surprised when she spoke to other visitors in the relatives' room who didn't have much information about their patient at all.
She asked lots of questions and wanted to be kept informed but was surprised when she spoke to other visitors who knew very little about their relative's condition.
She asked lots of questions and wanted to be kept informed but was surprised when she spoke to other visitors who knew very little about their relative's condition.
I think every test he had done I wanted to know the result and what that meant. When he had his scan I wanted to know what was the result of that, does that mean that he will be fully compus mentus. Or will his memory be impaired or anything like that. Ask all those questions. If you don't ask, you won't be told. Because the doctors have to know if somebody wants to know the worst scenario or just wants to be told yes he is okay.
So I think it is really up to you what level of help and information you want, but if you want to know, ask. I made it very clear to the doctors, really very early on, that I wanted to be informed all the way and that if he was going to die I wanted to know, and they were very good. They did everything I asked. But having met other people in the relatives room who said, 'Oh we don't know what is going on', and I have said, 'Well have you asked', they said, 'No.' So I do think that if you want to know everything then you have to ask and you have to tell them the depth that you want to know by asking the questions. And if you have got any fears or worries then talk to the nurses and the doctors and they really will tell you exactly, sort of how you can sort of help, how they can help you, or how you can obtain help. But you need to ask. That is what I would say.
One woman said she'd been volunteered information but, because she'd felt it had been extremely negative and too soon under the circumstances, she hadn't wanted it.
A few people said that, although they'd been happy with the information and news doctors had given them, with hindsight they'd wished they'd been more assertive about tests when the person had first shown symptoms because this might have prevented them becoming critically ill. One woman wished she'd insisted doctors had taken a chest x-ray sooner because her partner might not have become critically ill if he'd been treated earlier. Other people wished they'd insisted that the ill person see a GP sooner than they had (see 'Emergency admissions').
Last reviewed August 2018.
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