Asthma
Asthma attack and emergencies
Being on the right asthma treatment and avoiding known triggers greatly reduces the chances of an asthma attack. An attack may come on suddenly (for example in severe brittle asthma) but often there will be warning signs for a few days before. People we talked to told us that warning signs included having to use the blue reliever inhaler more often; changes in peak flow meter readings, and increased symptoms, such as waking up coughing in the night. Warning signs should be taken seriously because they indicate that the asthma control is poor which increases the risk of having a severe attack. As Dee said, "You can manage to do an awful lot not to let it escalate into a really serious attack, and a serious attack is a big chunk out of your life…So it really motivates you to try to do everything you can not to let it happen."
Many people have a personal asthma action plan to help them to know what to do when symptoms escalate, but if they continue to get worse further help may be needed.
Andreane made a personal asthma plan with a specialist asthma nurse. She works out when it’s time to ask for help by monitoring her peak flow and how often she is taking her reliever inhaler.
Andreane made a personal asthma plan with a specialist asthma nurse. She works out when it’s time to ask for help by monitoring her peak flow and how often she is taking her reliever inhaler.
So that’s helped me to understand. So if ever I start to get a bit chesty cold, and it starts to get really chesty and not to go straight, then I take my peak flow and if it’s very low, then I have no hesitation, I know exactly what to do, and I can deal with it.
And it’s through that I’ve been able to manage it. You get the odd occasion, like even when you’re taking all your medication properly, unfortunately you still get ill. And my worst case scenario was five days in hospital and I, because I had a really bad asthma attack and that was hard, because I was obviously married with my husband and it was five days away from him which was, I hated, but it was necessary.
- Sit up straight - don't lie down. Try to keep calm.
- Take one puff of your reliever inhaler (usually blue) every 30-60 seconds, up to a maximum of 10 puffs.
- If you feel worse at any point while you're using your inhaler or you don't feel better after 10 puffs or you're worried at any time, call 999 for an ambulance.
If the ambulance is taking longer than 15 minutes you can repeat step 2.
A specialist nurse describes an asthma crisis and when someone should seek medical advice.
A specialist nurse describes an asthma crisis and when someone should seek medical advice.
With a crisis with asthma the airways become much more inflamed, often very rapidly. So somebody may have a response, a reaction to something that they are allergic to that they have a very severe response to. It could be that they’ve had a lot of things irritating the airways at one time so lots and lots of irritants in the air or it could be that there’s lots of, maybe they have had a cold or a viral infection that can suddenly trigger off the asthma. And what happens in those circumstances is that the person will start to feel much more breathless than normal.
Very often their blue inhaler won’t work so they try their reliever inhaler or their blue inhaler and they don’t get good response to that and they feel progressively more breathless. These attacks can come on sometimes over a day or two but sometimes can come on very, very rapidly and the person will feel very wheezy, breathless and struggle. And we often tell people to watch out for whether they are able to move around or talk and if somebody is not able to talk properly so they are talking in broken sentences and only can say a few words at a time then that would indicate a very severe attack. And in those circumstances the most important thing is to seek an increase in treatment. So with the slowly progressing attack then increasing their preventative treatment, increasing their reliever treatment and often starting a course of steroids will get the attack under control if they’ve got so severe that they can’t talk properly they should seek medical advice very quickly.
And in terms of seeking medical attention do you mean actually going to A&E in some circumstances or what would that involve, just going to the doctor?
Yes again it very much depends on how severe the attack is and how well the attack is coming under control. So somebody who is perhaps feeling more breathless, blue inhaler is not working so much but is able to walk and talk we would suggest that they go down to their GP and seek advice from the GP or practice nurse. But if somebody’s attack was so severe that they were too breathless to walk and talk properly then we would advise that they call for help immediately so going to A&E and preferably not driving themselves in a car in case the attack gets worse on the way, so usually calling an ambulance so that they can get there with some medical advice.
Chris says the treatment and help that is available enables you to live a full life….. ‘It’s terrifying to have it and it’s terrifying to watch it, but it passes’.
Chris says the treatment and help that is available enables you to live a full life….. ‘It’s terrifying to have it and it’s terrifying to watch it, but it passes’.
[laughs]
Because it’s too cold. But you can do, you know, practically everything that everybody else does, you don’t have to be imprisoned by it.
Dee explains how she can feel both physical and psychological symptoms during an asthma episode. The aim of medication is to try to avoid getting to that point. [AUDIO ONLY]
Dee explains how she can feel both physical and psychological symptoms during an asthma episode. The aim of medication is to try to avoid getting to that point. [AUDIO ONLY]
And of course, the whole aim of the medication is to ensure that you never get to that point.
Dee, and others, described finding it hard to make proper decisions during an attack, feeling ‘in a fog’, ‘detached’, not wanting to move, and ‘feeling or being’ past caring what happened to them. Having written details of the medicines and emergency information could also be very useful for other people – especially if the attack means that it is hard for the person to speak. If another person witnesses the attack they may be able to help take action on the person’s behalf. People we talked to suggested that it can be a good idea to warn friends, family and colleagues what to look out for and what to do, for example, just knowing where an inhaler is kept could be very helpful to someone who is struggling with an attack.
Philip describes a time when he had an asthma attack when he was at school and his dad took him to A & E. He felt he couldn’t move while it was happening.
Philip describes a time when he had an asthma attack when he was at school and his dad took him to A & E. He felt he couldn’t move while it was happening.
It was my only serious proper asthma attack but it’s a very strong memory, put it that way. The fear, just utter fear of not being able to breathe, there’s just nothing like it.
Okay and can you tell me, describe how you were feeling at that time.
At the... having an asthma attack?
Yeah.
I had, I remember, I just, it’s just fear. It’s just utter fear of breathing in and nothing happening. It’s just like you keep breathing in. If sometimes, having a panic attack or hyperventilating it’s the it’s, I’ve done that, but it’s not the same thing. It’s just breathing in and just, just not getting any air and you start slowing down and you start, you can’t move, you don’t want to move although you need to move somewhere where somebody can help you, but I didn’t want to move. I just, I just thought I’d stay there and hope that somebody would notice that I was having an asthma attack. It was yeah, it was kind of scary and thank God my dad came along at the time, I suppose. But it was just frightening, that’s for sure and when, nine or ten, it’s even scarier.
Dee had her most severe attack during the night which she says is a time when it’s more difficult to make proper decisions because you are tired. At other times it’s easier to be more aware of your peak flow measurement and use that as a guide. [AUDIO]
Dee had her most severe attack during the night which she says is a time when it’s more difficult to make proper decisions because you are tired. At other times it’s easier to be more aware of your peak flow measurement and use that as a guide. [AUDIO]
You know, and so that’s, for me that’s what the peak flow meter is about because there is a kind of a need to decide when you’re in so much danger you really need to seek help and you need to be moving towards a car or a train or a bus and towards a hospital or a clinic, as opposed to going on taking more reliever.
Because one of the dangers is that you think, “Oh, I’ll take more of my Ventolin and then I’ll be fine.” And in actual fact, you’re not going to be fine and you need to use that time to go and seek you know, another intervention.
Ann always makes sure she has her medication nearby because having a sudden onset of chest pain or being unable to breathe can be scary and she is often on her own at home. But she says she has never got to the point where she doesn’t know what to do next
Ann always makes sure she has her medication nearby because having a sudden onset of chest pain or being unable to breathe can be scary and she is often on her own at home. But she says she has never got to the point where she doesn’t know what to do next
So far I've been lucky that I've not been so unwell that I couldn't get to my medication and I've always had it around me, my Ventolin, I always have it around me in the same room.
A doctor explains how a person having an acute asthma attack is treated in hospital. This may include oral steroid tablets and using a nebuliser to get medication into the airways effectively. Some people may need to go to hospital.
A doctor explains how a person having an acute asthma attack is treated in hospital. This may include oral steroid tablets and using a nebuliser to get medication into the airways effectively. Some people may need to go to hospital.
But if an individual needs nebulised therapy, then, very strong and careful consideration needs to be given to whether they need a course of oral steroids to try and cut down the inflammation, which was, which flared up, and therefore gave rise to the attack.
Now some people may be admitted to hospital. Some people may be discharged after a period of observation in, in the A & E department. It really depends upon how quickly an individual responds and so on. If they’re admitted to hospital, then in general terms they’ll be admitted for two or three days, sometimes longer. For children it’s usually 24, 48 hours tops.
And other than nebulised treatment and possibly some oral steroids, what other treatments?
Well sometimes we will give intravenous dosing of the bronchdilator drug again. Solely because if the airways are very, very narrow, trying to get air, the stuff into the lungs by inhalation is, the problem is that the airways are narrowed. And therefore you can’t get the drugs out to the very smallest airways. That’s sometimes then you have to give the drugs intravenously, so that they just get to the lungs by another route. And of course, if you need intravenous drugs like that, then usually people are kept in hospital for longer.
And so they would stay in hospital until their condition…?
Until their condition is stabilised, peak flows have started to settle down and so on.
Mary worries about having an attack in the middle of the night because she lives alone. [AUDIO ONLY]
Mary worries about having an attack in the middle of the night because she lives alone. [AUDIO ONLY]
Yes. It is and I am happy enough with all of that. The only thing that does bother me is living where I live, because I have no support. I have I don’t feel I have an externally anyone I can run to.
Yes.
Say for instance if, in the middle of the night, I needed to do that, thank God for phones and mobile phones but getting to the doctor is a stumbling block. In my head I’d be thinking, “I’m living here on my own off the beaten track. What am I going to do if it got this bad in the middle of the night?” Because, about five years ago [son] was at home. He was the only one of my children living at home, and I woke in the middle of the night really, really bad, and I had to phone from my bedroom to his bedroom to get him to come up to me. I couldn’t shout. I hadn’t the puff to shout, “[Son] will you get up.” And I rang down to the bedroom next door, to get him to come up. He come up and got me into the car and got me to the hospital, and then, I went to sleep okay that night. This, whatever.
This wakened me and I could not breathe, and that worries me. It’s getting to the doctors from where I live and, particularly, if I’m living on my own.
Andreane said that when things are getting out of control it can be reassuring to have people around you who help you to stay calm. ‘Any form of kindness from a colleague or friend or a family member just you know, shows that they care and you know, they want to help you, helps a lot’. Belinda remember a time when she had been taken to hospital with severe breathing problems and the nurse had given her a nebuliser and stroked her back which she found helped her to calm down. Some people said that they made a point of making sure that other people such as airline staff or employers would know what to do in case of emergency.
Dee always uses her peak flow meter to keep a check on her lung function and when it‘s low knows that she needs to step up her medication. She has only had to go to hospital for emergency help twice and says the best piece of advice she was given when she was first diagnosed was to be ‘an organised asthmatic’, which for her means keeping a note of her medication in a place where others would be able to find it, keeping inhalers in places like the car and the office drawer, and most importantly, using a peak flow meter regularly so that if your reading goes below a certain level you know it’s time to get help. The time when she had to go to hospital for help she said ‘I misjudged how far down into breathing difficulties I was because I didn’t have a peak flow meter’. (At the time she was away on holiday and out of her normal routine. Being away from home in an unfamiliar environment (especially abroad) can be worrying for people with asthma, so planning ahead can be useful). (See ‘Managing asthma – reviews and action plans’).
Jane has had times in her life when her asthma has been very bad and she has been admitted to hospital, but she tries to avoid it. She can generally recognise when it’s time to get help.
Jane has had times in her life when her asthma has been very bad and she has been admitted to hospital, but she tries to avoid it. She can generally recognise when it’s time to get help.
And in terms of that bit, do you live alone? I’m not quite sure do you live on your own?
Yes. I do, yes.
And is that a worry for you. Or a concern at all that you’re here by yourself?
It was very much when I was having, when I went through that really bad spell. It’s not so much now because I’m able to get out and about. I’ve got a car I can drive so… I get out and about for that.
And so do you have something, I kind of a plan for you know, if things went downhill or you were taken ill or something?
Well my GP is fantastic, as is my consultant. So I just need, I mean I get told off by the GP for not calling him out, you know, not at all for not calling him out unnecessarily. So he would, they’d come out. They’ve got a really good network, they got a GP Cooperative in [place] so you can see a GP any 24 hours, you know, any time, any period of 24 hours. And if it’s the middle of the night they’ll send a taxi for you to take you to [Hospital] to see the Cooperative GP.
So is it a case of being able to recognize when you actually, at the point at which you would perhaps need some help?
Yes. Yes. And I’ve got an emergency admission card as well so … And I know I can phone an ambulance as well. I’ve only ever done that once.
Margaret has had some times when her asthma has gradually got worse and she has had to take more medication to get it under control, but she once had a serious attack and had to go to hospital.
Margaret has had some times when her asthma has gradually got worse and she has had to take more medication to get it under control, but she once had a serious attack and had to go to hospital.
It did. I, we went to the doctor very early on, I said, you know, I woke up and I could tell the night before I wasn’t feeling too good. And I said to my husband, “I just need to go.” You know, and we, it was at the time when it was walk in appointments. So we walked in and we, we were given the standard prescription for oral steroids and we then went, we went to Sainsbury’s shopping and I can remember just sort of, I don’t know how I got round, but there was a pharmacy there and that’s why we’d been there. And we got back and I said to my husband, “I’ve just got to sit in the car.” Because we live up 25 steps so [laughs] it wasn’t a case of just walking into our house. And he just took me back down to the doctor, who then, you know, rang forward to the hospital. And when I got in there, I wasn’t actually frightened, I can actually remember actually kneeling by the bed, because that was the most comfortable way. You kneel and you lean forward. And I actually can remember thinking if I die. I die.
Did you think it could happen?
It could happen, but there was no sort of panic about it because you get to a point where you think…
You go with it…?
Let’s just go with it. You can’t, you can’t really fight. You know, you can only just do whatever you know, sort of, sort of try and relax yourself. And it was just, there was a 20 minute period where it was really bad. And I was being monitored every ten minutes. You know, blood pressure and I couldn’t when you’re in that state you can’t do a peak flow you know, [laughs]. You know, you’ve got to use your breath for other things, than to give measurements to, to medical staff.
Did you have a nebuliser at that time?
Yes, I’d had a nebuliser and there was only, I mean I was having a nebuliser every, I don’t know, twenty minutes, you know.
And how soon did it pass off?
It passed off to bearable within less than two to three hours, because I can remember saying to my husband, “Have you fed the car park meter?” Because it was the time when we were still paying for car park. “Have you fed the car park meter?” And in some ways it was a way of just giving him, you know, an excuse to go, because it’s very distressing to see somebody, you know, in that state. I mean in some ways I was just forced to think about me and not to worry about, about the distress that he was obviously feeling.
Can you describe the actual feeling that you had during that attack? Was it just gasping for breath?
It’s not gasping. It’s that you know, you imagination breathing through the thinnest tube possible, you know, less than a straw, you know, just trying to get every little bit of air down, you know, that terrible constriction.
How long did you have to stay in hospital for?
For that one I think because I was I think I was on probably on the point of being what they call intubated. Which is a tube put down to help me breathe and with the drugs and the nebulisers I was just at the point of you know, of doing that and then I, everything seemed to relax after then, so the, I didn’t have to go into intensive, intensive care. Oh I can’t remember how long. I was in, I always seemed to have these things near a weekend and like most hospitals it just becomes a crèche at the weekends and nothing happens. If it had happened on a Monday, I dare say I would have been out on the Thursday or the Friday, but because it happened you know, and I was finally admitted on Wednesday night. That was it. I was in there until the following Monday.
Jenny has severe brittle asthma and is often in and out of hospital. She recalls the first time she went in to A&E as an emergency, but now the hospital staff and paramedics know her and what she needs.
Jenny has severe brittle asthma and is often in and out of hospital. She recalls the first time she went in to A&E as an emergency, but now the hospital staff and paramedics know her and what she needs.
And had you been on steroids, at that point, or were you just using your inhalers?
I think at that point, I was just using my inhalers… because I hadn’t realised that I’d got an infection or anything because previously I’d had the infection in my foot, I’d had antibiotics for that.. and was just assumed that I was better and thought the cough was because it was the middle of summer, you know, was it hay fever or whatever… I was having a bit of a cough and stuff. And then, when I say I got to A&E, they just thought that my temperature was very high and I had this infection and they did the x-ray and it was, it was pneumonia in the left lung, and I was in the hospital for ten days with that.
And what took place whilst you were admitted into hospital and what, what sort of things were they doing?
In A&E I had nebulisers, oxygen, fluids because I’d got de-hydrated because I was coughing so much.
What the, do you know what the nebulisers called?
Salbutamol… and Atrovent nebulisers yeah.
So that’s to kind of stabilise you, and so when you were in hospital they were monitoring you and keeping, trying to get on to…
Yeah. The idea is, before you go home from hospital, you have to be back on your normal medication, unless they happen to have increased it or whatever. I mean, it turned out I then went on to a drug called aminophylline which they put straight into your veins and that sort of increases the blood supply to your lungs and it relaxes things down.
Now I have, since being here, I’ve… on my first admission it was all set up for me that now my home phone number and my mobile phone number are red flagged, what they call it with the ambulance service, so if I ring them up, it’s, they know who I am, they the chances are that it’s probably my asthma; if I can’t say much I don’t need to say much to them. They’ll sort of say, you know, they’ll ask you for your phone number, where you are or the location and then often they’ll say “Is that Jenny?” “Yes”. “Is it your asthma?” “Yes”. “Someone’s on their way,” and they sort of say, they give you the usual do this do that, whatever.
So it’s sort pre-set for a priority call?
Yeah.
Jenny’s local ambulance service has a ‘red flag’ on her mobile so that if she rings they know it’s her and she does not need to speak much. Her care is normally very efficient, but just occasionally she has had to wait in and A&E when staff have not been so well-informed about asthma. Others said their experiences had been mixed, with some excellent and immediate attention in A&E, but also some encounters with junior staff with limited experience and training who did not realise the need for urgency. Jane (above) carries an emergency admission card to ensure she gets seen quickly, and the only time her care has been less good was when she was admitted for another condition. The nurses had no training in respiratory care and did not understand that she needed medication immediately in an attack.
(Also see ‘Medication and treatments – other treatments’, ‘Relationships, friends and family’, ‘What asthma feels like’, ‘Changing symptoms over time’ and ‘Emotions and coping’).
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