Ending a pregnancy for fetal abnormality
Coping with bereavement - men's experiences
Every man we talked to said they felt very sad about the loss of the child, though some felt they had not been as deeply affected as their wives or partners. Several men said they were unprepared for having such strong feelings afterwards. Several had talked about their experiences informally with someone outside the family. (Also see 'Counselling and other kinds of support'.)
He felt great sympathy for his wife but didn't feel the loss as much as she did.
He felt great sympathy for his wife but didn't feel the loss as much as she did.
I don't really remember talking to anyone about it, no. And I guess in a way that's because men are expected to not sort of be emotional about these things, and I don't really have any family or... close - well I won't say I don't have close friends because obviously that makes me sound very sad [smiles]. But I don't have any family that I can talk to. And, I suppose in a way I was happy just being there to support [wife].
I'm not sure that talking to anybody else would have made much difference at the time, because its something - the emotions are very internal - and I don't know that there's much that can be said that can make any difference.
Describes how he and his wife felt extremely sad for some time after the termination and that his...
Describes how he and his wife felt extremely sad for some time after the termination and that his...
Sometimes you think it's just not fair. I've become more emotional, I think I've become more emotional, more... I get upset, I get more emotional easier than before. And that is not just getting upset, but if I'm really happy then I'll remember that, you know, yeah I am really happy and that, you know, life is still good and I'll, you know, I feel myself welling-up then.
I think the whole experience has made us realise that, that life's too short to worry about a lot of things, and it's changed our outlook I think to certain things.
Many men believed that talking about the termination to friends or a counsellor would not help them feel better about what had happened and that they preferred to deal with it in their own way. Several said that getting back to normality - particularly going back to work - had been the best thing for them.
Found it difficult to talk to friends about the termination and was offered some help through his...
Found it difficult to talk to friends about the termination and was offered some help through his...
So that was good just for me to just to talk through the process - like I've done with you here - and just tell them what happened really without any judgments or anything. I did feel [that] they were trying to counsel me the whole time, which wasn't really what I was after, I just wanted a session to talk to someone. Because it is difficult to talk to male friends about it.
He had plenty of time off work and his colleagues and boss were very supportive but eventually he...
He had plenty of time off work and his colleagues and boss were very supportive but eventually he...
The support from them was really good. I think sometimes why I do get emotional, I did shut out some of the help that could have been given, but the nature of my job, I just sort of had to get on with it again. There was a point where they'd given me so much time off and they were right, actually you know, "We think it might be a good idea for you to come back, and you can do it in any way you want to", and again they were very good and very supportive. And that helped me back to work, because it was something I'd got to get on with.
You know there is a life afterwards that you've got to get on with you know, and that's probably the same for a lot of other dads, that have been through it, yeah. There are days when I don't think about it at all, but obviously today...
Mother' I think about it every day still.
Father' I think about him everyday still, but I don't think about the whole process of everything.
Other men said they had suffered serious regrets about the loss of a child - some had coped by accepting their feelings philosophically and spiritually, others still found themselves feeling unsettled at odd moments.
After many sleepless nights he eventually had a dream about his baby which helped him accept her...
After many sleepless nights he eventually had a dream about his baby which helped him accept her...
And has that baby been born?
Yeah, yeah. And that's what, the joyful thing about it. And it was a great way of coping with, for me, with the death of this first baby.
He knows he made the right decision at the time but now feels more regret about the loss of his...
He knows he made the right decision at the time but now feels more regret about the loss of his...
But I'm beginning to find as my own daughter gets older, the loss of a little brother that she would absolutely dote upon, is an additional loss that I did not contemplate at the time.
And I probably thought more of the negative aspects at the time of that it could also have very difficult affect on her, that she would be second best to some extent. And so I am conscious that I'm focusing on, I'm still focusing on regret and, I feel sort of regret coming, coming through. And I know that's certainly not my wife's reaction. You know, she her reaction is pain and loss. Mine is pain and loss, but also a bit of regret. And I guess part of that is my own family circumstances where I still think about my mother died of cancer when about the time I left [country]. And it's sort of like, 'Oh did I do the right thing there?' - regret - and so part of that was going through my mind again with the decision to end the pregnancy.
Guilt there's a huge amount of guilt. And I suppose, I suppose what I am now thinking is... somehow I had the ability to bring a life into the world and I didn't. And I don't know how you advise people during that situation at the time because it's just a personal situation and one has to make at the time, and no one else's experiences - no matter what they are and no matter what you say on this website - are going to prepare you for that, because it's not a situation you expect yourself to be in.
Some women said that their partners were just as affected by the loss of the baby as they were but had found it difficult to adjust and accept that they needed to get time off work for bereavement. One woman said her partner had rejected counselling even though he clearly needed it and eventually only accepted help when a male GP intervened. Some men joined ARC (Antenatal Results and Choices) with their partners and attended meetings and some also joined the ARC's men's online group which several said had helped them initially.
Says that her partner needed as much time off work as she did to recover from the loss of the baby.
Says that her partner needed as much time off work as she did to recover from the loss of the baby.
And [name], my husband, for once in his life was very forceful and insisted and said, 'It affects me as much as its affecting my wife.'
And it felt that there were some parts of the medical profession who either didn't read into us enough, didn't care about us enough or just swept us under the carpet. And at that point we changed doctors. It was, he said to me later on down the line, I'd been off for, I think I was off for 6 weeks and the midwife had come to me and said, 'You take as long as you need,' she said, 'You need to recover'.
And so my sick note ran out, and I went back and said, 'I still don't feel ready,' and he says, 'Look, I'm only going to give you another week then you've got to get yourself back together and get to work'.
So it was sort of at that point that, 'That's it. I'm not going there again.' And it was sort of not understood how it affects you afterwards.
And it was, he was very angry at the time with a lot of people, and with what had happened with the post-mortem as well. It just felt... it felt like you were being treated, sort of as a failure, that you hadn't got a live pregnancy at the end of it.
And because you've actually, you've made the decision to terminate, maybe at certain points it felt like, 'Well, we don't deserve any sympathy. You've got to just get back to being you again.' Whereas I think if it'd had been a miscarriage or something had have happened spontaneously then I think maybe it would have been slightly different.
It helped her partner to be able to talk to a GP who had personal experience of ending a pregnancy.
It helped her partner to be able to talk to a GP who had personal experience of ending a pregnancy.
When my GP came to visit me a couple of weeks after we'd had the termination, he also mentioned that him and his wife had had a similar experience about 2 to 3 years previous, and my partner could come and visit him in the surgery. He said make a double or triple appointment so that he can have time to talk about things.
My partner thought that was a good idea. I think he feels that sometimes it is easier to talk to another person rather than talk to me about things. And he found it very, very helpful talking to the GP. The GP is a gentleman as well so it's possibly easier for men to talk to men. And to have the time to talk about the feelings and emotions was, was good for him.
And also when the GP came to visit me at home we could talk about our experiences and although they were different, it's the same feelings, the same grief and the same loss that you go through, and it's reassuring to speak to somebody that's gone through it and you know you're not alone And you know that you can get through it - it might take a few months, it might take a few years - but if you talk to people that have the same experiences then you're supported.
Many women thought that men 'grieved differently' from women because men didn't want to talk about the baby and carried on as if nothing had happened.
She felt angry with her partner at first because he seemed to be coping so well and then she...
She felt angry with her partner at first because he seemed to be coping so well and then she...
And it was only after realising and reading and finding out that he was, but just grieving in a very different way. And he said there were times that he wanted to, you know, perhaps break down but he didn't want to because he had to be strong for me. And I think that was a very interesting point that I wish I'd perhaps realised earlier on rather than later on.
Women felt their partners' silence didn't mean they didn't care but that it was a mask for hiding unhappiness. They said that their partners didn't want to break down because they were trying to be strong to support and protect them. Several women said they thought their partners felt 'helpless' because they couldn't do anything in a practical sense to put things right.
Her husband could see she was suffering and found it difficult not being able to do anything to...
Her husband could see she was suffering and found it difficult not being able to do anything to...
And I do, I think he felt really helpless, and I don't remember anyone being overly sort of... wondering how he was and everything, which is, I mean, it was, I do remember him laughing, half-laughing, coming back and saying, 'Everyone, everyone was asking how you were,' and there was, there was nothing like, I'm sure they did ask he, how he was, but the focus is very much on the Mum, which is not, but it's only half of it. Okay, or maybe 2/3rds of it because we have to go through the physical bit but, you know, they're not, they play a huge part in it as well.
Last reviewed July 2017.
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