Urogynaecological conditions: prolapse, bladder and pelvic floor problems
Thinking about the future
This section covers:
- Seeking more answers and treatments
- Expecting urogynaecological problems to continue
- Concerns about urogynaecological problems returning or getting worse
- Impacts on decision-making about future pregnancies and childbirth
- Hopes for the future
Reflecting on their experiences of urogynaecological conditions so far and thinking ahead to the future, some people we talked to described being on a long process or ‘journey’. Even if symptoms had improved or gone completely, some worried about problems returning or new ones developing. For those who had complications after mesh surgery, or who were planning future pregnancies, there was a lot of uncertainty and concern.
Seeking more answers and treatments
We talked to some people who were still in the process of finding the ‘right’ treatment plan or way to manage their urogynaecological symptoms. Sabrina hoped that by going to see her GP for the first time about her urinary incontinence, she would then get “medical peace of mind that it will improve”. For those with UTIs (Urinary Tract Infections) and bladder pain who did not have a settled diagnosis or treatment plan, thinking about the future usually involved seeking further health care.
Elisabeth, Leeanne, Jackie, and others were waiting for mesh removal surgery and hoped that this would improve their symptoms. Jackie describes waiting for the surgery as being “in limbo". Penny is currently waiting on a second mesh removal procedure, which she hopes will allow her to move forward from her “horrendous journey” with mesh. While Sian hopes that a removal will reduce her pain, she is “under no illusions that I’ll get my life back”.
Felicity and Sophie felt that their symptoms were not being managed well and hoped to find more helpful treatments. Jeannie and Kerry were waiting to try out new pessaries for prolapse.
Felicity is considering Botox for her bladder to avoid future embarrassment from her incontinence symptoms.
Felicity is considering Botox for her bladder to avoid future embarrassment from her incontinence symptoms.
I am suffering with having accidents I have to wear pads when I go to bed and I mean at 48 that’s not cool so that’s the next thing that I want the doctors to address whether or not I’m going to need a treatment or Botox in my bladder or something, I’m just researching at the moment but I am not putting up with being incontinent at the age of 48. But that’s another thing they just, like oh okay, you know, they’re just ignoring it and it’s like can you imagine waking up in the morning, you know, you’re in somebody else’s house and you have an accident, you know, it’s really embarrassing, so I don’t want to live like that so yeah that’s the next thing that I’m fighting for at the moment.
Different types of surgery were considered options ‘later down the line’ by some people we talked to. As part of their approach to decision-making for treatments, many were keen to try all other (non-surgical) treatment options first. Others, like Pauline, Penny, and Elisabeth, said they preferred the idea of getting surgery over with sooner rather than later in the hope that they could get back to enjoying life.
Negative experiences of healthcare can affect how people approach future medical appointments and decisions. Trusting new doctors could be particularly difficult for those who felt they hadn’t been listened to or that their doctors had not been honest with them. Sian, who had mesh injury, explained that the past “shadows your choices”. Phoebe said she had developed a “massive distrust of the medical profession” after earlier experiences of poor healthcare.
Expecting urogynaecological problems to continue
Elly, Leah, Jasmine, and Sophie felt frustrated by the thought of having to manage their urogynaecological symptoms for the rest of their lives. Leah and Sophie refused to accept that their symptoms would be “forever” and held out hope for treatments or cures. Leah worries about the impact of her chronic UTI symptoms on her partner and their sex life, and fears that getting counselling will be “another battle to try and get support to deal with the trauma from having this [condition]”.
Elly feels a mix of frustration and acceptance about her future living with prolapse.
Elly feels a mix of frustration and acceptance about her future living with prolapse.
But, obviously, ideally I feel like I wish I could just wave a magic wand and everything would be fixed all in one go in an ideal world but on this journey, I think I’ve accepted that there isn’t a magic wand and I probably am going to have to battle with these problems. It’s not going to be the quick fix that I want it to be. I’m going to have to work on my pelvic floors forever, you know. I may need more surgery if my uterus prolapses further in the future, maybe I’d have to have a hysterectomy and that can cause vault prolapses. So it’s just, it feels like you’re on a never ending road of Possibilities that could happen in the future.
Those with mesh complications or problems with UTIs and bladder pain were aware that things may not improve in the future. At times, Leah found the “mental side” of knowing she may continue to live with pain from chronic UTI more difficult than the day-to-day pain itself.
Fran felt that pain medication would only be covering up the symptoms, not repairing the damage. Some felt strongly that acknowledging the harms of mesh and chronic UTI would help with emotional healing.
Elisabeth hopes that the damages from pelvic mesh will be acknowledged and that patients will be better supported to live well.
Elisabeth hopes that the damages from pelvic mesh will be acknowledged and that patients will be better supported to live well.
You know, you don’t want a huge, I mean I don’t, I don’t want someone to come along and say oh you can huge pay-outs or this that and the other, that’s not what it, I just want someone to try and put it right understand what I’m going through and for the people who want that, saying it’s not happening and it’s not, you know, it’s okay and it’s safe and it isn’t safe and I know some people will think it’s about £billion lawsuits or pay-outs or whatever, it’s not for me, all I want is someone to say there is a problem with it and we accept there’s a problem with it, but I suppose for them to do that it opens up the can of worms. I just want someone to be honest at the end of the day and say we’re sorry and help us live the rest of our lives to the best that we can. You know, I’d like to think that in five years’ time I’m still playing bowls and that, in fact five years’ time I’m not in a wheelchair because I can’t move because some people are, you know ow, some people have lost their jobs, some people are living in such agony they can’t get out of bed each day the depression, the, all the sides like that. That’s the last thing I want to do I want to still be able to live my life and I will do my best but we’re coming up against too many brick walls along the way.
For some people who were taking medications, thinking about the future included worries about long-term side effects, reduced effectiveness, or having problems getting hold of medications, including antibiotics.
Georgina found it difficult to think she would “be ruled by a medication regime” for the rest of her life. Alice worried about kidney problems from extended medication use, as well as possible supply issues in the future.
Leah is aware of the risks of antibiotic resistance, but thinks that women with UTIs are unfairly affected.
Leah is aware of the risks of antibiotic resistance, but thinks that women with UTIs are unfairly affected.
You acknowledge that there is a, there is a very, we’re in a dangerous position in society about antibiotic resistance but you don’t want to be the one to sacrifice your treatment that you should be getting when you’re in that much pain for the wider good when there are so many other things that we could do to reduce antibiotic usage, whether that’s in ani-, like how we use it in animals, in, for the meat that we end up eating, with, you know, with all of the antibiotics that get put in to pigs or chickens or whatever. They’re, I just, yeah, so you’re very much aware that there is this, there is this bigger picture but when you’ve got the condition yourself, you don’t want to be the sacrificial lamb that is not properly treated by the NHS because of this worry about the wider picture. And you do feel, and I only have limited knowledge on this but from talking to some other people around, there are male conditions, predominantly male conditions, where there isn’t the anxiety around prescribing those long-term antibiotics. And yet UTIs is a predominately female issue and it seems to be the condition where we try and reduce and reduce and reduce the antibiotics.
Those whose urogynaecological symptoms had been ongoing for a long time had sometimes come to accept the need to learn to live with their condition. Sharon felt that she had learned to live well with her prolapse and incontinence, and considered herself ready to deal with any issues that happen in the future.
Georgina, Jeannie, and Sophie were determined to do their best to get on with life, and not to let their illnesses define them. Sophie plans on trying to “improve the outcomes from the factors that I’m in control of” like managing her weight to avoid further issues with mesh or incontinence. Laura continues to live with pain from her chronic UTIs but feels that she has been able to get “a lot closer to normal” and is no longer “massively despairing” about the future.
Concerns about urogynaecological problems returning or getting worse
For those whose symptoms had resolved or were now well managed, thinking about the future included strategies to avoid symptoms coming back. It was frightening to think that improvements from treatments might be temporary, and symptoms could come back, or get worse.
Jo’s pelvic floor symptoms resolved after a prolapse repair surgery, but the possibility of it coming back as she gets older “absolutely petrifies” her. She tries to stay on top of lifestyle measures and hopes to be able to “relax and move forward”.
For many of the people we spoke to, the idea of symptoms getting worse over time made thinking about the future worrying and filled with unknowns. The thought of needing more doctor’s appointments, medical procedures, or surgeries was upsetting to Jo, Kerry, and Cynthia. Those with prolapse or incontinence particularly worried that surgery wouldn’t work, lead to complications, or need follow-up operations.
Planning for the future was complicated by factors that could make urogynaecological conditions worse, such as going through menopause and getting older. Jo, Elly and Jeannie were concerned about their pelvic floor might weakening further with ageing and were looking at what they could do to prevent their prolapse getting worse.
Gwen worries about her incontinence getting worse and being unable to communicate her discomfort as she gets older.
Gwen worries about her incontinence getting worse and being unable to communicate her discomfort as she gets older.
And it’s impacted on my life since I was 17 years old and I’m hoping that it don’t get much worse, but I am approaching, or, not, older age cos I know I’m old now but older age, and it’s a big worry for me, incontinence, and urinary and faecal incontinence. And I think to myself well I don’t, I’m not looking forward to having to go in a home, how do I explain to somebody that I’m having a urinary tract infection if I’m going a bit gaga? The thought of being faecally incontinent and having to be cleaned up and, and wear pads and everything else, it’s a horrible thought. Horrible thought. I’m hoping they’ve brought euthanasia in by then. Yeah, don’t want that. So yeah, yeah, urine has been in my mind a long time.
Concerns about ageing and future surgeries were also shared by those with mesh complications, who worried about the mesh causing further damage inside their bodies. Jackie worries that her mesh may “invade” other organs in the future, and that she might need a colostomy bag if this happens. The possibility of the mesh creating more damage was upsetting to Fran, who described thinking about the future as “scary stuff”.
Fran finds it frightening to think about her mesh damage getting worse in the future.
Fran finds it frightening to think about her mesh damage getting worse in the future.
But, It’s just so depressing, the whole thing is so depressing, and I’m frightened. You know, you think of the future, if they take the rest of this out, will I walk again. That’s scary, scary stuff. If I don’t get it taken out and I just let it get worse and worse and I keep popping the pills to try and do anything, am I making it worse by doing that because its false security isn’t it? It’s like you take pills to block the pain. A bit like people do psychologically with drugs I suppose, you know, I’m doing it physically to block the pain, ‘Am I making that spine damage worse? Am I making my nerve damage worse?’ Nobody tells you, I have no idea the answer to these questions. It’s just awful, the whole thing’s awful, it’s a mess.
Impacts on decision-making about future pregnancies and childbirth
Several people worried about how future pregnancies and childbirth could affect their urogynaecological symptoms. Kezia, Chloe, and Sharon worried about having future birth injuries that could make their prolapse or incontinence worse. Whether to have a vaginal birth or a caesarean section also became more of a consideration; Chloe and Kezia were considering a caesarean section to try to avoid further damage. Amy hoped to have another child, explaining that her prolapse is “only ever going to get worse, and so I might as well just have something nice”.
Some women had decided not to have any more children because they did not want to risk making their urogynaecological conditions worse or developing new problems. Pelvic floor surgery is usually only recommended for those who do not want (more) children, so Eve is now deciding whether to have another baby or to go forward with prolapse repair surgery.
Access to information and specialist care during pregnancy was a concern for women like Iris, Chloe, Amy, and Laura. Iris found it comforting that her physiotherapist assured her that she could access support during a future pregnancy. While this hasn’t taken the worries away completely, it has helped “de-escalate that process of worrying”.
Hopes for the future
People we talked to shared their hopes for the future for themselves, healthcare services, other patients, and future generations of women.
Among other things, people wanted to be able to dance freely again, go running, play with their children and grandchildren, to go on long walks, and get back to paid work. Sabrina, who has urinary incontinence, wants “to be the mum that’s playing rather the mum’s that taking the photos”.
Jan feels that she is able to “go forward” and learn to live well with prolapse and incontinence.
Jan feels that she is able to “go forward” and learn to live well with prolapse and incontinence.
It has for me having the knowledge just gives me, gives me back control. It helps me believe that I can go forward with this now and that it is, I’m not a lost cause and my body’s is not just failing on me and that’s it and I’m going to have to just put up with this for the rest of my life. I mean it’s, you know, I know it’s not a quick fix, but I just feel this is it I’m going to do as much as I can now to really try and get myself, so I will be playing tennis and table tennis again and shortly and I’m going to go on holidays again. In fact, for the first time yesterday I went on a bus into our local city and thought, I’ve had a, I’ve had two months where I have not even gone into the city because of worrying about toilets.
People also shared their hopes for the future of urogynaecological healthcare services. Leah, who has chronic UTI, hoped for a future where people “are diagnosed properly and treated properly”. Phoebe and Alaina were hopeful that new medical developments might help treat prolapse. Those who had problems following mesh surgery hoped that their experiences would be recognised and that the government and medical bodies would ensure that lessons are learned.
Phyllis, Helen, and others said that they hoped that the movement towards reducing stigma and embarrassment and increasing awareness and support for urogynaecological health continues so their own daughters and granddaughters will have a better future.
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