Donna - Interview 25
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Donna was diagnosed at the age of 13 with a kidney condition called Mesangiocapillary Glomerulonephritis (MCGN) type II. Type II means that even after a transplant it can come back. After diagnosis she was put on a high dose of a steroid called prednisolone and she remained stable for three years. During that time she was able to attend school and lived life like any other teenager with the only difference being that she had to take a quite a few tablets everyday. After three years her condition deteriorated fast and her doctors found a lot more blood and protein in her urine which showed that her kidneys were damaged. She had a second renal biopsy which showed that the tiny holes that filtered her blood in her kidneys were getting bigger so she was losing the minerals and nutrients her body needed. Her kidneys, because they were not working properly, were holding back extra fluid in her body, and she was getting very 'puffy' looking. She said that she looked like she was 'nine months pregnant' and that it was difficult and painful to walk and that she felt tired all the time. She then went back to hospital and after a week of unsuccessful attempts to reduce her body fluid she was started on dialysis. She was very scared and equated 'renal failure' with death. The doctors told her that she would be on four hours of dialysis three days a week until a donor could be found for her to have a transplant. Luckily her mother was her donor and she had a kidney transplant in 2005.
This sudden deterioration in her condition was very tough on her both physically and emotionally. She was unable to attend school regularly or take her GCSE's. She felt rejected and isolated from her then 'group of friends' as they failed to understand what she was going through. She began to self-harm and felt unable to talk to others but she was able to write notes to her mother expressing her thoughts and emotions. She said that the support and love of her mother, other members of her family and her nurse all helped her overcome her negative feelings and she stopped self harming.
In general she thinks that the positive thing that has come out of her experience is that it is has made her family much closer. She also said that she now appreciates her step dad more than before she had her transplant.
She was diagnosed at 13 with kidney disease. For 3 years she was fine on her medication but then...
She was diagnosed at 13 with kidney disease. For 3 years she was fine on her medication but then...
Okay, I first became poorly when I was thirteen years old. I felt fine in myself, it was just one night I was staying at a friends and my ankles were very swollen and we weren't sure why, but it was midsummer so I thought it might just have been because of the heat. The next morning it had gone down, and then a few weeks later, I was playing in our back garden in our paddling pool, and a neighbour noticed that my legs were really swollen, so that week my Mum took me down to our local doctors, but they didn't think anything too much was wrong. They just thought I might have a hole in the heart, and they took some blood tests. The next day we had a phone call saying that we had to go straight to our local hospital, as soon as possible, because they had picked something up in my kidneys. So we went there. I spent about four weeks on the ward and had all sorts of different tests done, they couldn't really find what was wrong, so I was then transferred to [hospital] where I was then again tested for lots of different things. I was given a renal biopsy, which showed that I had mesangiocapillary glomerulonephritis type II, and the type II means that even when I have a transplant it can come back again. I was put on a low dose of, to start off with I was put on a high dose of prednisolone, a steroid, and was very stable, and they just slowly weaned me off of it as I was on that for three years, and then, I got to a low dose of, it was about 5mg alternative days and my body just didn't like that, and everything went down hill. But in those three years I was at school fine, just enjoying myself like any other teenager would, apart from taking a few tablets here and there.
When you say you went downhill, what do you mean?
All of a sudden my blood levels were going very high, my creatinine jumped high, and they found a lot more blood and protein in my urine which showed that my kidney was letting a lot out which it shouldn't have been. I then had another renal biopsy, and that showed that in my kidney I had lots of, to start off with there was lots of little holes, but they had now gradually got bigger, so I was losing a lot more of the stuff that my body needed, I was also holding a lot of extra fluid all over my body, I was very puffy at that time. They let me go away to monitor me, I went on holiday for a week but couldn't enjoy it because I was, by now I looked about nine months pregnant, and to get up and walk around was very difficult and painful for me at that time. So I was, half way through the holiday I had to go back to the hospital, I was put on a drip to try and make me get rid of all the extra fluid, but to start off with that worked really well, but then it just stopped working. My body didn't want to cooperate, so about a week after that I was told that even though that wasn't working, I was alright, and because my main worry was being on dialysis, I was told that I wouldn't be on dialysis for ages. About a week later everything had gone downhill even more, and I was then told that I was going to have to go on dialysis, that week. Which was a big shock, it really upset me.
Why?
Because when I was younger, when I ever heard of you know dialysis, renal failure, the first thing I thought of was, 'Well I am going to die.' You know because at that age you don't think about transplant and all those different things. So when they explained it to me I was, it settled down a bit, but I was extremely scared about just the whole thought of sitting there having a machine do everything.
Was alarmed when she was told that she would have to have dialysis but found the nurses helpful...
Was alarmed when she was told that she would have to have dialysis but found the nurses helpful...
All of a sudden my blood levels were going very high, my creatonin jumped high, and they found a lot more blood and protein in my urine which showed that my kidney was letting a lot out which it shouldn't have been. I then had another renal biopsy, and that showed that in my kidney I had lots of, to start off with there was lots of little holes, but they had now gradually got bigger, so I was losing a lot more of the stuff that my body needed, I was also holding a lot of extra fluid all over my body, I was very puffy at that time. They let me go away to monitor me, I went on holiday for a week but couldn't enjoy it because I was, by now I looked about nine months pregnant, and to get up and walk around was very difficult and painful for me at that time. So I was, half way through the holiday I had to go back to the hospital, I was put on a drip to try and make me get rid of all the extra fluid, but to start off with that worked really well, but then it just stopped working. My body didn't want to cooperate, so about a week after that I was told that even though that wasn't working, I was alright, and because my main worry was being on dialysis, I was told that I wouldn't be on dialysis for ages. About a week later everything had gone down hill even more, and I was then told that I was going to have to go on dialysis, that week. Which was a big shock, it really upset me.
Why?
Because when I was younger, when I ever heard of you know dialysis, renal failure, the first thing I thought of was, 'Well I am going to die.' You know because at that age you don't think about transplant and all those different things. So when they explained it to me I was, it settled down a bit, but I was extremely scared about just the whole thought of sitting there having a machine do everything. So, I think later that week I had a central line fitted, and then I was put on dialysis for'I think it was, to start off with I was only on there for about three hours, because they wanted to get rid of the fluid, which was taking a long time to disappear. Eventually they managed to get it all off and I had been holding 14 litres of extra fluid on board. And then'
Okay. Tell me more about dialysis; you said that to start with they put you on for three hours?
Yeah. I think I had that, they started me three times a week for three hours to start off with. Once they'd got most of the fluid off, they then decided to try and put me for two times a week, but still for three hours. My body didn't really cope with that very well because the fluid then piled back on again, so I had to stay for three hours three times a week, and then after about two weeks of that they decided I needed a longer period of dialysis, so I was then put onto four hours three times a week, I was told that I would stay on that till I had a transplant. Which to me, that just became a routine, you know that was my life. I made some really good friends while I was there, and the nurses were really helpful, when I had down times they'd sit with me and you know they'd explain everything. Any questions I had, which I found really helpful, so did my Mum.
Describes the 'work up' she and her donor (her mother) needed to have before her kidney transplant.
Describes the 'work up' she and her donor (her mother) needed to have before her kidney transplant.
Her mother donated her own kidney for the transplant so was recovering in hospital and unable to...
Her mother donated her own kidney for the transplant so was recovering in hospital and unable to...
And when did you see your Mum again? How long after?
She was discharged two days after the surgery so she came straight over. And that was nice to see her.
After a year of hospital treatment they found out that they could reclaim some expenses. She was...
After a year of hospital treatment they found out that they could reclaim some expenses. She was...
What was the reason you were turned down?
It was just simple things like on the disability living allowance I was told I couldn't have it like because I was capable of going to the toilet myself, and just silly things like that that you know most people would be able to unless you know they had quite severe problems. And all the other ones I was told that I couldn't have them because apparently our monthly or weekly income was a decent amount, and that was the only reasons really.
She was angry with her body for causing her illness and went through a very down period in which...
She was angry with her body for causing her illness and went through a very down period in which...
She had to make a lot of changes to her diet because of kidney disease. Her dietician gave her a...
She had to make a lot of changes to her diet because of kidney disease. Her dietician gave her a...
There was a lot that I couldn't eat, but the things that I was to eat was plenty of things with calories in. They liked us to eat doughnuts with lots of, icing on top and things like that. So that used to help bring certain blood levels down which make us feel better, and they got a bit sickly after a while. The things you weren't allowed to eat was anything with potassium in, so I wasn't allowed chocolate, potatoes, I wasn't allowed chocolate.
So you had to learn a lot about food what you could '
Yeah, tomatoes was a definite no.
No.
I wasn't allowed phosphates, I wasn't allowed cheese, milk, things like that. So, yeah it was really hard, when it came to meal times and when I was hungry you can't just pick up anything. Also anything with fluid in because I was on a fluid restriction, yoghurts, even an orange and things like that. I was allowed oranges, but simple things like that which have juice in, even bananas I wasn't allowed them. So it was quite hard.
Did you have some help from a nutritionist, you or your Mum have help from the nutritionist, or leaflets that explained'
Yeah, I had a dietician and she gave me a little booklet with lots of leaflets in saying what I wasn't allowed, and it was also giving me meal ideas as well as what I could do. Which was quite helpful. So, and they used to, every now and then we would have to write down what we'd been eating, for like say two or three days, and they'd look at that and see whether I was eating what I was allowed or what I wasn't allowed, so they'd change little bits here and there.
At every stage of her illness she has felt reassured and well advised by her medical teams. Some...
At every stage of her illness she has felt reassured and well advised by her medical teams. Some...
Okay, this was the team in London?
Yes.
And what about the team in the hospital near your house?
They were always really good before my transplant, they told us everything. Since I've had my transplant I've only had one appointment back there so far, so I don't really know how it is going to go.
You went back to the same consultant you've had before?
Yeah. Well I had, there were three consultants when I was on dialysis, but when, after you've had a transplant you can pick to go to any one of those clinics, and I chose a certain consultant because he was, I found that I got on with him a lot better than I did the others. So I chose to go to him.
What made him different or better?
I think it was just the way he explained things and he tended to speak to me, like I was an adult and he was, he wasn't all, I mean if you were in like a clinic meeting, it would be me, him, or my Mum and if my Mum couldn't get someone to look after my brother he would have to be there, and the consultant wouldn't mind that, he would talk to me and my Mum and then he might talk to my little brother and you know we felt like we were all welcome with him. But then with certain consultants we've felt like, I don't know just as if they thought we were a bit rude, having my brother there with us, which made us feel quite uncomfortable. Yet if my Mum had a choice she wouldn't have brought him into the appointment.
Wasn't able to do her GCSE exams but she was graded according to her coursework. She then went on...
Wasn't able to do her GCSE exams but she was graded according to her coursework. She then went on...
Talks about the friends she made while having dialysis and how her friends from school were...
Talks about the friends she made while having dialysis and how her friends from school were...
And your other friends, the friends that you had from school, the new group, I mean, you managed to keep in touch with them regularly?
Yeah. Sometimes I think I had about two of them that would every now and then, if they had like a TD day, they'd come up to dialysis with me and sit there for a while with us, which I found helpful because tend to get a bit bored as well. And sometimes when I was on the ward, all of them, there were about six of them, would catch the bus up to the hospital and come and visit me for a day, which used to really cheer me up. So they have been really good, its just that there's certain things that they didn't understand like, what I was allowed to eat, and I wasn't allowed to drink much, and just things like that, but yeah, I mean they are still really good friends now, so I'm lucky to have them.
Despite money problems she feels that her condition has brought the family much closer.
Despite money problems she feels that her condition has brought the family much closer.
In terms of financially?
That's been difficult, that's been really difficult. I mean my Mum had to take a lot of time off work and they gave her a certain amount of sick pay, but not really, because you know she had brought it on herself having the surgery, and my stepdad is in the army, so he only get's a certain amount of time off each year and he had to take all his time off in one go, therefore then when he went back to work he had to really work long hours to make up that money again. Which that put a lot of strain on the family.
If you are feeling down and depressed then talk to someone and/or write little notes about your...
If you are feeling down and depressed then talk to someone and/or write little notes about your...
What do you say you learnt from your own experience?
I think I've learnt, you know, who my, I've found out who my real friends are, and it's also about relationships within your family. You tend to, because it's brought us all closer together, we do tell each other a lot more. And I've learnt not to just take things for granted. I mean life's too short, and you should just make the most of it, but that doesn't mean just to ignore what you're told, still do as you're told like taking any medication and things, but you know you might feel different because that was about just one thing, you know you've still got, I mean I've taken medication in the morning and in the evening and still got the rest of the day I can enjoy myself and do what I want to do. And everyone can.