Cleft Lip and Palate
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The initial diagnosis of a cleft lip or palate usually happens when the expectant mother has a scan at approximately 20 weeks of pregnancy. The ultrasound scan is generally conducted by a trained sonographer who can identify the appearance of a cleft lip. While an ultrasound scan can detect the image of a cleft lip it cannot reliably detect a cleft palate. Sometimes further scans such as MRI and 3D scanning are offered to families, particularly if there is a concern that the baby will also have a cleft palate and more detail is required.
Paul recalls how he and his wife Michelle found out that their son had a cleft lip and what his future care would involve.
Paul recalls how he and his wife Michelle found out that their son had a cleft lip and what his future care would involve.
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That’s right, yeah. So at the scan they actually spotted, the nurse, midwife spotted something on the… on the video and then she called someone else in, and then they had a look and then they told us. And then they… we had to go and sit in another room for a bit. And then we, I think we met a consultant afterwards who kind of briefed us on what it was. And then we went for further scans and a 3D scan and an MRI scan and all sorts of things. But… initially it was a bit of a shock because you don’t really expect anything. And then... but then after sort of thinking about it, and digesting it over the sort of course of a week or so I suppose it was just quite lucky that it’s nothing overly serious; it’s just cosmetic really. And there are some practical things, issues with it initially. But nothing, nothing sort of life threatening so yeah. So all in all, initially quite shocked, and then sort of got to grips, grips with it quite quickly hmm.
Safiya met the specialist cleft team before her son was born and they explained to her what the future care of her son would involve.
Safiya met the specialist cleft team before her son was born and they explained to her what the future care of her son would involve.
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Yeah before my little boy was born, I saw the specialist cleft team. ...I can’t remember exactly at what point, how far in my pregnancy I saw them, but I know it was definitely before he was born. And they helped with things a lot. They obviously had all the answers; that’s their speciality. So I could ask loads of questions. They told me... they gave me a sheet that had a plan on of the operation he would have from when he was born to when he’s 20 years old.
So it was quite a long-term thing they explained to me. But they gave me all the information, which I felt like helped, because it helped me to sort of plan it in my head and get everything sorted in my head. ...They explained to me about he’d have to have special bottles, and special teats and... that I’d have to feed him a different way. I couldn’t feed him like a normal baby like lying down: I’d have to sit him up.
Parents who received the diagnosis of cleft at their scan appointment felt that there was often a lack of empathy and understanding about the reality of having a child born with a cleft lip and or palate. For example, conversations about the risk of the baby being born with a condition associated with cleft were not handled very well.
Natalie recalls how the sonographer handled the diagnosis of her sons’ cleft at her 20 week scan.
Natalie recalls how the sonographer handled the diagnosis of her sons’ cleft at her 20 week scan.
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It was, it was a little bit tricky. Because my husband had gone out to... feed the meter, and it was obvious that the sonographer had detected something and she was a little bit edgy, and she didn’t want to say anything until my husband came back.
OK.
And he was gone for quite a long time, and in the end I think she just thought, “Well I’m going to have to say something.” So it was all a bit, it was all a bit uncomfortable really.
For her I think because she just, you know, she was waiting till he came back, but in the end didn’t, and so told me while I was there on my own.
Oh right.
So that was quite hard really in a way. Because then, you know, she told me, and then when he eventually did come back in of course I was fairly upset. He was, you know, “My goodness, what’s happened?” So she had to tell him, so the whole thing got repeated again.
No I mean at that point we sort of left the room where we’d had the scan and were kind of ushered into this side room, and that was all a bit kind of like, “Oh,” you know, with no one with us, just sat there sort of, “OK what, what happens now? Oh my goodness,” you know. We probably weren’t waiting very long in that room but, you know, it feels like it’s forever. But fortunately well I don’t know whether that would happen as of norm, but we were, we were then taken through to, as I say, the foetal medicine department where I had a much more detailed scan.
OK.
And partly that was a good thing; partly not. Because those, that team of... people then sort of gave us... probably too much information almost, in the sense that we were told what other conditions…
Right OK.
…could go along with the cleft.
Right, the syndromes?
And that was pretty awful actually, because I mean I’d almost have preferred, but that’s me personally because I don’t... I suppose... I wouldn’t say I’m an ostrich, but I kind of, OK, I’m dealing with one thing here, I’m not sure I want to hear everything else.
I think if we’d just sort of had that more detailed scan, we learnt the sex of the baby, which was quite nice in a way, I mean I wasn’t... didn’t want to find out having, you know, before that, but once we knew about the cleft I thought, “Well let’s prepare for everything here in terms of that.” But I’m not sure I then wanted to know all these other conditions which, you know, some of them were pretty, pretty dire you know.
In the time between the scan and the visit from the CNS, many parents try to find out more about cleft lip using the internet. This too can be distressing for families, particularly as the pictures found on the internet may be extreme or show more unusual cases of cleft. See ‘Diagnosis of cleft and impact on pregnancy’.
Some families said that they were given too much spoken information at diagnosis and this could be overwhelming. Others felt that they would like more information in the form of pictures and leaflets. Some suggested that information about well-organised and reliable websites such as the Cleft Lip and Palate Association or Changing Faces should be given out at this time.
Iva recalls how the sonographer detected the cleft lip and told her that it was a cosmetic condition and the gap in the lip could be closed.
Iva recalls how the sonographer detected the cleft lip and told her that it was a cosmetic condition and the gap in the lip could be closed.
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And when she said cleft lip I turned to my husband and I said to him, “What does this mean?” And he said in Bulgarian it’s XXXXX. And I was just, because I remembered just these pictures in my head, and I was just…
So that must have been?
…the most awful moment in my entire life.
Oh dear.
I was absolutely devastated. And she gave us a brochure with the image of a small boy, and actually his repair was really very nice. But I don’t know, I didn’t know then what I could expect.
What to expect hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
And so who gave you this information, was it the sonographer?
Yes the lady that did…
…who did the scan?
…the scan. She said, “Wait here for five minutes,” she went somewhere and came back with the brochure, and she said, “You will be called by a nurse, a specialist cleft nurse in the next few days. She will come and show you pictures. Don’t worry. Actually you have nothing to worry about because I told you your son is absolutely healthy. This is something cosmetic; it will be repaired. Don’t worry.” But I was, but nothing could help in that moment really, I was just crying and crying and crying. And I told why.
A cleft nurse showed Becky and Mark images of ‘before and after’ surgery for cleft lip. They also got to meet the cleft surgeon who reassured them that any other problems could be dealt with.
A cleft nurse showed Becky and Mark images of ‘before and after’ surgery for cleft lip. They also got to meet the cleft surgeon who reassured them that any other problems could be dealt with.
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Mark: And up to date information. Because a lot of information we had looked at, and we know about ourselves, like my own experiences is 20 years ago, you know, from kids I grew up with…
Becky: Yeah.
Mark: …which is different to what it is now.
Becky: Yeah completely.
Mark: The outcomes are so much different now, it’s unbelievable.
Becky: Yeah and I think it was having that, you know, that person, wasn’t it, that you could just like ask any question to at all.
So this person then, was she a nurse?
Becky: Yeah she’s the lead from the…
Lead nurse, OK.
Becky: …from the CLAP- the cleft team.
Yeah hmm.
Becky: And basically she let us talk, didn’t she? And any question at all you know.
Becky: And I think that really, really helped to put things in perspective really for both of us, wasn’t it?
Mark: And we were quite lucky that I was off at that time, wasn’t I?
Becky: Yeah you were.
Mark: So I got down to actually meet the surgeon.
Becky: Yes your, yes you... I had so many questions, and you did, and she just offered us, she said, “Would you like to come and meet, you know, the cleft surgeon? You’ve got a lot of issues, a lot of questions,” and she said, you know, “we can, you can, we can book in to come and see him.” So that was arranged.
Yeah.
Becky: as well, which was really useful, wasn’t it? Yeah.
Mark: That was excellent. He was so good, wasn’t he?
Becky: Yeah and I think…
Mark: Explaining things and telling us what to expect.
Becky: Yeah and I think sort of, you know, what helped, because I think, you know, the image of a cleft is quite visual, and it’s the unknown, you know. Sort of I was like basically, well how, I wanted to know how big it was and, you know, we were offered a...this is probably going on a bit, but we were offered a 3D scan then.
Last reviewed June 2017.
Last updated June 2017.
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