Aphra
Aphra’s had very positive experiences of GPs and feels that she has been ‘quite lucky’. She had counselling at school while she was doing GSCEs and caring for her mum. Aphra feels that her GP was particularly ‘compassionate and kind’ when she had depression because of a work situation.
Aphra works voluntarily to help improve cancer services in her area. She lives with her family. Ethnic background / nationality: White British.
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Aphra's had very positive experiences of GPs (local doctors) and feels that she has been 'quite lucky'. She rarely saw the GP as a child as she was usually healthy. When she did, she went with her mum and recalls that the doctor would speak to her first, rather than to her mum, and ask her how she was feeling. Aphra said she never felt 'overlooked'.
At the age of around 14/15, Aphra went to see the GP because of her mum, who was living with depression. The doctor wanted to see how Aphra was coping and whether she needed any extra support. At first she was 'absolutely terrified' of saying the wrong thing, but was surprised at how 'laid back and relaxed' the conversation was. Although the GP 'can be very stern sometimes', in this appointment Aphra recalled her being 'nice and friendly'. She left feeling confident that if she had needed support, such as counselling or to attend a young carers support group, her GP 'would have and could have arranged it'.
For 'quite a long time' after this appointment Aphra didn’t see a GP but had counselling at school while she was doing GSCEs and caring for her mum. She saw the school pastoral manager first, who scheduled a slot with the school counsellor. Aphra felt that the counsellor's techniques were 'very childlike' so she didn’t have 'a lot of confidence in her'. The pastoral manager 'did a lot more', though, because she provided a card that allowed Aphra to see her anytime, even if it was just for a chat. Aphra would like schools to make pastoral managers a 'more prominent figure within the school' as she feels that many young people are unaware of their services.
Although Aphra has been with the same local surgery since childhood, she registered with the university health centre while she was doing a degree. She visited the university GP when she developed what she thought was a chest infection in the first year, which lasted for three months around the same time every year. The first GP she saw told her it was probably 'just fresher's flu' and asked her if she wanted to go on the pill or get any condoms. Aphra felt that if she needed condoms or advice on 'sexual health stuff' she would have just asked. She ended up seeing around eight to ten GPs about the chest infection and felt that the surgery 'wasn't very committed' to letting her see the same doctor. She often felt that the GPs 'weren't really listening' and, on one occasion, that the doctor used Google in front of her and 'instead of going somewhere like NHS choices... they read it off Wikipedia'.
Although Aphra has had some GPs who were 'absolutely fantastic', it was usually difficult to get an appointment with them. Her infection was never properly diagnosed but she thinks it might have been a mushroom and croup allergy.
After university Aphra moved back home and re-registered with her previous surgery. She feels that her GP 'really listens', is 'compassionate and kind', and that she can talk as long as she needs to. The doctor was particularly good when she had depression because of an abusive situation at work, reassuring Aphra that it wasn't a 'failing' in her. Aphra also feels that the local pharmacy is 'really good at listening to people'.
Aphra's advice to health professionals is 'not to assume' anything or have preconceived ideas about what young people are seeing them about. She would also like her local surgery to have drop-in clinics specifically for young people. Her main message to young people is 'not to be too embarrassed' to see a GP. She would like them to know that GPs 'are there to help' and 'give you a good service'. If they are unhappy with the service, they should feel confident to 'go back and get a second opinion'.
Aphra’s neighbour helped her realise that she needed to see the GP, who advised her not to go back to work. She was very tearful which was unusual for her.
Aphra’s neighbour helped her realise that she needed to see the GP, who advised her not to go back to work. She was very tearful which was unusual for her.
And it's one of those things where it felt almost a bit like I was being silly before, you know; no job could ever be that bad. But it was when the GP, that first GP I saw, went, "It's not safe for you to go back" as well, that I went, "Maybe it's not just me actually, and maybe I'm being a bit hard on myself, and actually there is something really wrong here about how I'm being treated."
So she made the emergency appointment. Was it your GP that you saw then or, do you know who your GP is, or is it different every time?
I have a listed GP, but I rarely see her to be honest. I have the same GP now every time I make an appointment especially if it's about the medication I'm on, and generally how I'm feeling with my depression and my mood, and getting sick notes.
But for the first few appointments, because they were emergency appointments, I saw different people. But I think they were always really prepared to listen and they could see that, every time I thought about it, I'd start crying again. I'd spent so much time crying at the GP's surgery. And I was never normally a person to cry, so it's one of those things, they're going, "Well this feels a bit silly and this is a bit ridiculous." But it's just one of those things where you go, actually you can't help it. And they must be so used to seeing it, you really can't be the only person who's walked in and gone [crying noise].
Aphra saw a GP that specialised in sexual health. When she was in a relationship, it was good to go on the pill as well as use other protection if needed.
Aphra saw a GP that specialised in sexual health. When she was in a relationship, it was good to go on the pill as well as use other protection if needed.
And so it was really easy to arrange then and there's a specialist doctor in our surgery who really deals with all the contraception and all the sexual health issues. The other doctors can cover it, but she's the one with the most skills and she's had extra training. And so she can tell you all the statistics and all the facts off the top of your head. And it's very much that you're allowed to choose what's best for you, and if you don’t like something – they ask you to try it for a month or so, but you're more than welcome to go back and to ask for it to be changed or to try something different.
That’s good. So it's all at the GP's surgery which is easy to get to, and there you see the same GP, but is it a sexual health clinic or you just go to the GP?
You just go to the GP. So there is some instances where that GP will work in the quieter surgery. And, although I can't be certain, I'm pretty sure it is almost a clinic booked in terms of the receptionist's eyes, and everyone's there for the same things. But I only get the feeling of that because that surgery will be absolutely empty of everyone but women. But she has ordinary appointment times so you can be seeing her for anything. You know, from a sore throat to actually, you know, family planning.
And was it her suggestion or your own suggestion, or was it more of a discussion about going on the pill?
It was my decision because it had been kind of floated before that it might be something that they look at just because I was getting highs and lows with my hormones. But it wasn’t until I started seeing somebody that I went, "Actually now I think I want that extra protection." Especially because having anxiety, even though I use other protection, and I've changed boyfriends since, I used other protection again, there's always part of me that goes, something is going to go horribly wrong [laughs].
So it's a reassurance?
Yeah.
Aphra said that cervical screening (smear) tests can be unpleasant but they’re ‘worth doing to save your life’. Young people need to talk openly about them.
Aphra said that cervical screening (smear) tests can be unpleasant but they’re ‘worth doing to save your life’. Young people need to talk openly about them.
And obviously there's a lot of tragic cases of young people knowing there's something wrong and their doctor's not giving them a smear test. And I think that it's one of those things where it sounds awful and it sounds scary and young people don’t want to go and have it done. Well, being in Wales they come earlier, and so I can say quite safely that a smear test is about as unpleasant as it sounds. But it's absolutely worth doing to save your life.
And I think it's one of those things where we need to get away from those taboo areas about our health and just be prepared to talk about everything a lot more openly even if it's something we don’t necessarily like to think about.
Aphra chose the surgery that was easiest to get to by bus. It was also recommended by older students who were registered there.
Aphra chose the surgery that was easiest to get to by bus. It was also recommended by older students who were registered there.
So a lot of people like me had gone for this one surgery just because it was really convenient to get to. It was in the centre of the town, and so it was one bus ride down if you weren't feeling well, and you were there.
Some people had gone for the one that was closest, but actually that meant it was on the side of this awful hill and there was no bus route there.
You have to walk there?
Yeah. They were the people who ended up paying for taxis and things. So it was quite often there was people showing you to your rooms when you first moved in. And a lot of those people who were there, and already students, were going, "I'd go to this surgery" or, "Avoid this one, they're terrible." And so you kind of got the word of mouth the minute you walked through the door.
But it was really useful that you got your keys, you signed up to a GP, and that was you done. It wasn’t an optional thing. It was, “You are signing up to a GP while you're here.”
Right. So you didn’t actually go into the surgery, the doctor's surgery to register?
No, there was a form and the university collected all of them. And then they worked out which ones were going to which surgeries and delivered them to them.
The receptionists move along the desk if someone wants to talk privately. They’re friendly and often remember Aphra’s name.
The receptionists move along the desk if someone wants to talk privately. They’re friendly and often remember Aphra’s name.
Has that situation ever come about where you’ve kind of felt, 'Oh I wonder if everybody can hear me, and can we move along so that it's a bit more private?'
It's not happened for me, but I've been in the queue when somebody has said, "Oh actually can we, you know…" Or "I don’t want these people to hear." And there's never any look of irritation on the receptionists face, they are really happy to just keep everyone happy as it were.
So have you found them to be friendly and approachable?
They're really friendly and they don’t always manage, but they do their best to kind of remember your name, especially if you go in quite often. So sometimes it's those little things of going, even if it's just where you’ve gone and given them a piece of paper, they go, "Oh thanks very much." You know they might have just read your name off the screen, but it's those little touches that actually make you feel like you're a human being and not just another one of the masses.
Aphra prefers her current GP and surgery. They listen to what you say, and they give health and lifestyle advice without ‘shaming’ you.
Aphra prefers her current GP and surgery. They listen to what you say, and they give health and lifestyle advice without ‘shaming’ you.
And I do think that this surgery is a lot better than the one I was at when I was at university in Wales, just because I remember the first time I went to the one in Wales. I'd got a terrible chest infection, and the doctor didn’t listen to me. She was going, "Oh it's probably just Fresher's flu, you'll be absolutely fine." And then she just went, "Are you sure you don’t want to go on the pill, or do you want to get some condoms?" I was going, "I'm not here and lying about having a chest infection for sexual health stuff. If I needed condoms I'd just come in and tell you."
But you don’t get anything like that at the surgery I'm at now. It's a lot more about they trust you to go in and go for the complaint that you’ve actually got, or from you know, if you need to go on the pill they’ll just go, "Yeah, you go and see this doctor and see this nurse."
And I like the fact as well that when I've been and it's been the general kind of health check-ups, and they go, "Get on the weighing scales." They don’t just go, "Ooh you need to lose weight straight away." They just go, "Oh lose a bit, but at the same time who doesn’t need to lose a bit?" There's no kind of shaming there. And every health problem you have doesn’t come back to, "Oh just lose some weight, or go get some exercise." There's a lot more of, "Actually we'll give you a blood test and we'll see what's really going on there."
Aphra saw the first counsellor for 6 sessions at her local surgery. She’s now seeing a second therapist in town and feels ‘like I’m in control’ again.
Aphra saw the first counsellor for 6 sessions at her local surgery. She’s now seeing a second therapist in town and feels ‘like I’m in control’ again.
Did you…so you were seeing the GP, and the GP was prescribing the antidepressants?
Yeah.
And separately then you were seeing the counsellor?
Yeah. So the therapist I was seeing through the GP again stays confidential. So the GP only knows how many sessions you’ve had, or if they think there's a problem then actually they tell you, and it's up to whether you talk to your GP about it or not. Which came up after I'd had my six sessions with the first therapist. She thought I could benefit from a higher level therapist which would mean that I'd have to travel, but only into the town centre to their actual kind of head office as it were.
And that took a couple of months to come through, probably almost three months before I could see somebody there. But those sessions were every week and they were an hour long, so it's a lot more intensive and it's all cognitive behavioural therapy. So it feels really practical and like you're taking steps to fixing yourself as it were rather than just talking about how low you still are.
Was that how it was at the GP's surgery?
The GP's surgery had some cognitive behavioural therapy, but there was a lot more talking as well involved; it was a kind of mix of the two. And but those sessions were only half an hour and they were every couple of weeks, so there was a lot more time in-between. And I kind of see it almost like the ones I had at the GP's surgery was a triage kind of thing. So it was about making sure that I was eating and making sure I was sleeping and paying attention to what kind of activities I was doing.
Getting to the sexual health clinic can be a problem. Aphra feels comfortable talking to her GP about sexual health. It’s got easier as she’s got older.
Getting to the sexual health clinic can be a problem. Aphra feels comfortable talking to her GP about sexual health. It’s got easier as she’s got older.
I think a lot of young people do go to the GPs for contraception especially if it's convenient to get to, because otherwise for where I live, the nearest kind of sexual health clinic is two bus rides away. So it's not going to be easy for most people to get to. And it's one of those things where when you drive, it's easy to pop into, but otherwise it can be a real problem. But I do think that they go generally for stress quite a lot, and just for feeling ill and getting kind of almost the common ailments – sports injuries and things like that.
I think probably if it wasn’t for sexual health that stress and depression would be one of the more prominent things locally just because all the young people are under so much pressure. If they're not going into further education then they're joining the world of work. And there's an awful lot of them that are constantly told they're not good enough almost. And so they struggle to find jobs, or they're only working in warehouses, but they have terrible conditions so they swap jobs every six weeks. And people go, "Oh can't you hold down a job?" Well actually if you tried to do a twelve hour shift in an office at ten at night, I don’t think that you'd stay either.
So anxiety and depression is a big thing and sexual health as well?
Yeah.
In terms of sexual health, you mentioned the nearest sexual health clinic would be two buses away?
Yeah.
So it's quite hard to get to. Would you feel comfortable talking about issues with your GP about sexual health or?
Yeah, I think I'm really honest and open about it. I think it's one of those things where, maybe when I was sixteen/seventeen I'd be a bit more awkward and a bit more embarrassed.
Aphra has no preferences in terms of seeing a male or female doctor. For her it’s more important to be seen and be given good care.
Aphra has no preferences in terms of seeing a male or female doctor. For her it’s more important to be seen and be given good care.
Not for me. I think that whether it's an STI test I've got to go for, or whether it's, ‘I'm just going for an appointment’, I'm very kind of matter of fact about my health. I think if I'm going along, it's more important that I get seen to and I get a decent service. So it never really kind of makes me feel uneasy. And quite often as well, if it's things like going to the GUM clinic for an STI test, I'm going that’s kind of what got me into this mess anyway, I really…now is not the time to be embarrassed.
The school pastoral care manager was ‘a really lovely woman’. Aphra preferred her to the two school counsellors she saw.
The school pastoral care manager was ‘a really lovely woman’. Aphra preferred her to the two school counsellors she saw.
Sometimes I did just work in there because I found that environment was better for me. And I always remember as well that my teachers were really surprised I was going to the pastoral manager because they always associated her with the kids who were in trouble, or who were truanting and just generally the problematic people. And they kept going, "But your grades are so fine, why on earth would you end up there?" And you're just going, "Because it's actually not about the grades, I'm coping, but I just need the break."
But she has been able to get me a slot with the counsellor, and I had to wait about a month before I could go. And then they did have all the normal agreements that it was entirely confidential, and they'd only break that confidentiality if they thought I was at risk. Which luckily for me I never was.
But I didn’t have a lot of confidence in her, partly because I felt that, when you're a young carer, you act a lot older than you are anyway. Because you're used to having to deal with things that are just more difficult and more adult. And some of her methods were very childlike.
Doctors are there to help and give a good service, whether the problem is a minor illness or sexual or mental health.
Doctors are there to help and give a good service, whether the problem is a minor illness or sexual or mental health.
And if you're not happy with the answer they’ve given you, or you don’t think that they did something right, then tell the surgeries and the practice managers, and go back and get a second opinion. Don’t just kind of go, "Oh well I don’t feel right, but the doctor says I'm fine so I must be." If you know there's something wrong with you, then there's something wrong.