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She found her consultant very serious and negative. She felt he encouraged/pressured her into having a termination, which she had decided that she wasn’t going to have. The various tests and scans that they went on to have, including a CVS, did not reveal any genetic problems, although the exomphalos was very large; the liver, stomach and bowel were outside the abdominal wall. Amy felt that she missed out on a normal pregnancy, as it became very medicalised with regular scans and tests. She and her partner decided to change hospital, as they were not completely comfortable with their original hospital. Although this meant that Amy would give birth in one hospital and her baby would be taken to another immediately, they felt it was the right choice. She highlighted two features that reassured her it was the best choice for them; one was a leaflet they were handed about abdominal wall surgery, indicating that the staff knew what they were doing, the other a café waitress saying a cheery hello and welcome when they first arrived. They were shown around the hospital and neo-natal intensive care unit. A caesarean was planned, but her waters broke and she went into labour earlier than planned (at 36 weeks), so she had an emergency caesarean operation.
Her daughter was born safely and Amy was able to see her briefly before she was transferred to the specialist hospital where she spent the next 3 months. Amy had to spend two nights on a ward with mothers and their new babies, which she found really hard.
The surgeons used the silo method and performed approximately twelve operations. Amy had to stay in hospital two nights and was then able to stay in a hospital hotel for a few nights so she could be near her daughter. As things stabilised and her daughter came out of intensive care (after 5 weeks), Amy was able to stay in a room with her, which she really appreciated. Her daughter was looked after by the same surgeon throughout, and Amy really liked him – she felt his manner was calm, steady and matter of fact, making no false promises.
Amy’s daughter came home after 3 months. She had to return to hospital for a hernia operation a year later, which Amy found very difficult. But apart from that, she has developed well. At the time of the interview Amy’s daughter was 6 years old. She has no ongoing health issues and is happy and healthy at school. She does not have a belly button, which has been noticed by other children (e.g. in the swimming pool) but it is a mark of uniqueness, rather than something she is bullied about.
*Exomphalos
An abdominal wall defect, that occurs when the baby’s tummy wall does not develop fully in the womb. Some of the baby’s intestines and sometimes other organs such as the liver, develop outside the tummy and are covered by the umbilical cord.
Amy was shocked to be told her baby’s bowels were outside its body. She had no idea what it meant.
Amy was shocked to be told her baby’s bowels were outside its body. She had no idea what it meant.
So I went home in floods of tears, not knowing what to think, what does this mean? And I went home and I Googled, as everyone would these days, and I put it into Google and out came all of this medical information, which was very, very negative. So it was really dreary and difficult to read through all of this and there was research studies, very, very few that I could find. But everything I could find was very negative. A very, you know, there is this much chance your baby will have other issues and it, it was pretty grim reading. However, there was one thing I found and it was a group that somebody in Britain had set up about babies that have this issue and on that page I did see babies that didn’t make it, I saw babies that had other issues and I saw babies who only had that issue.
And I went in the next day thinking, no matter what, I have to give this baby a chance. There’s, whatever percentage of that was, I felt, before I went back to meet that consultant, that I wanted to give this baby a chance. The consultant was very negative [laughs]. I don’t know how else to put that, was very, very negative. We called him ‘Doctor Death’ in the end because each time we went it was just doom and gloom and it was very, very difficult. Even when I said I’ve made this choice, we’d made this choice, we’d thought about it, it was still the suggestion was there to terminate and it was brought up more than once to us. And I found, I found that really, really challenging because I’d made my decision and I’d given my decision to them and still felt like I wasn’t always supported by that.
Amy had researched exomphalos* at home and so was clear she wanted to give her daughter a chance. She found the consultant’s manner very negative.
Amy had researched exomphalos* at home and so was clear she wanted to give her daughter a chance. She found the consultant’s manner very negative.
And I went in the next day thinking, no matter what, I have to give this baby a chance. There’s, whatever percentage of that was, I felt, before I went back to meet that consultant, that I wanted to give this baby a chance. The consultant was very negative [laughs]. I don’t know how else to put that, was very, very negative. We called him ‘Doctor Death’ in the end because each time we went it was just doom and gloom and it was very, very difficult. Even when I said I’ve made this choice, we’d made this choice, we’d thought about it was still the suggestion was there to terminate and it was brought up more than once to us. And I found, I found that really, really challenging because I’d made my decision and I’d given my decision to them and still felt like I wasn’t always supported by that. Although there was a nurse that was always there as well and she was excellent, I have to say. She was really attuned on me and my partner and how we were together and she helped us with that and so actually, felt through the pregnancy is, this was at the first hospital we were at, that this nurse was kind of the shining light and everything. She was really, really helpful and in the end we decided to change hospitals.
I hadn’t realised that in this country you could choose where your care is given and we decided to change where we were going and I ended up sending a letter to the doctor to tell him of our decision. But I also sent a letter to her because I felt that she had been just as equal in the care up to that point.
No, he was he was fetal medicine and he was he was very stern. There wasn’t any warmth. He was he was very matter of fact. But, when you’ve just found this out and you’re trying to process what it means to you, to your child, it was, it was hard. It, it needed a different approach. I needed, I needed to know the full picture and I think that, that’s something I never felt at that hospital, was a well-rounded picture that, you know, some babies will live and they may have other problems [dud de dah]. I always felt by this doctor that there was a pressure to terminate, that I wasn’t making the right decision. Now I think some partly that was them or and maybe partly how I was interpreting. But I felt like I should have terminated in in the eyes there and that wasn’t something I was prepared to do.
*Exomphalos
An abdominal wall defect, that occurs when the baby’s tummy wall does not develop fully in the womb. Some of the baby’s intestines and sometimes other organs such as the liver, develop outside the tummy and are covered by the umbilical cord.
Amy felt more comfortable in the second hospital she tried. She felt it was the right place for her daughter’s care.
Amy felt more comfortable in the second hospital she tried. She felt it was the right place for her daughter’s care.
I have to say, that was one of the things that I appreciated the most. I’d gone into the hospital when I was pregnant, for that very first appointment and, when we were changing hospitals, and the surgeon said, “The care that you’ll be given here is the same as the care at the hospital you are at now.” And I said, “But I feel different here.” And I said, “I feel like I’m part of the client group, you know. It’s a baby and I feel like we are a family unit as part of it.” And I said, “Do you know, when I walked in this morning, we went into the café.” Sorry, I feel really emotional when I say this but it’s something so simple, there was woman behind the counter. So she was helping people and she saw me and she said, “Good morning.” Something so simple, but I felt so comfortable in that moment. And I just thought, no, this is where I want to be and this is where I want my baby treated. And something so simple but so effective and that woman will never know that that “good morning” meant so much. Sorry [sniffs].
So we then went upstairs and had a tour of the ICU and the hospital had a pamphlet and the pamphlet was about abdominal wall defects. Again, something so simple but I took that pamphlet away and I went, “This is where she needs to be.” I’d seen other babies in the ICU that day with exomphalos*. I mean they couldn’t tell me but [laughs] I’d seen enough. I could tell that their organs were outside their bodies and I knew that this was the right place. It felt right and I think that it’s just with anything now, as a parent. You know, finding that nursery, finding that school, you know when I feels right and this felt right and I felt comfortable. And so, you know, that was the place where I wanted her to be treated and, you know, I mean my partner was with me on it and it felt really like this is the right place.
* Exomphalos
An abdominal wall defect, that occurs when the baby’s tummy wall does not develop fully in the womb. Some of the baby’s intestines and sometimes other organs such as the liver, develop outside the tummy and are covered by the umbilical cord.
Amy felt like a ‘mamma lion’ wanting to do the best for her baby, but wanted to feel she was having a normal pregnancy too.
Amy felt like a ‘mamma lion’ wanting to do the best for her baby, but wanted to feel she was having a normal pregnancy too.
So I have this book full of pictures of scans that you know, a normal pregnancy wouldn’t have. So it was trying to kind of gleam any positive things we could out of this pregnancy because it wasn’t a positive thing. And somebody would say, “Congratulations” and then you’d tell them and they’d go, “Oh.” People just didn’t know what to say.
* Exomphalos
An abdominal wall defect, that occurs when the baby’s tummy wall does not develop fully in the womb. Some of the baby’s intestines and sometimes other organs such as the liver, develop outside the tummy and are covered by the umbilical cord.
Amy said that while people ask ‘how’s the baby’, they don’t really know what to say if there is a problem.
Amy said that while people ask ‘how’s the baby’, they don’t really know what to say if there is a problem.
And I think my partner actually was a lot different. For him, he, I don’t know if he didn’t want to know or for him that was his way of coping, I’m not sure but, for me, I felt like I needed to be saturated with information and to expect anything. And I think that’s how I went into it when she was being born that she may not live and it was really hard. It was really hard when you were carrying a child that you didn’t know if they were going to live or die and it was hard to tell people, any people actually, you know, family. But more so people that you didn’t know as well because you felt like you were burdening them, in a way, with sadness. And I wanted it to be joyful. This was my first pregnancy and it was, it was tricky. Somebody held a baby shower for me and it was the first and maybe the only time that it felt like a normal pregnancy. It was a really special to me, that time, because it was the first time that I felt really normal and it was really, really special to me.
Amy said even if you have to write in my notes, not agreeing with medical opinion, I’m going.
Amy said even if you have to write in my notes, not agreeing with medical opinion, I’m going.
I really thought there was some other way they could have, I don’t know if there was another room or something. It was just such a painful night and I was in there two nights and both were like that. And this I found it, I don’t know if, I don’t know if people weren’t used to having people whose children were whisked away. But the nursing staff, I’d say, you know, “I’d like to call to the hospital and see how my baby is, you know. She’s just had surgery.” And they were saying, “Oh, oh well, not now. In.” You know, you can imagine, I was getting really upset and, you know, I needed to hear how she was and finally one of them went and called, and let me know that she was doing okay. I needed to know that. I needed to have that reassurance.
The next day I wanted to go and see her and the doctor had said, “No, you know, you’ve just had this c-section and your blood pressure is high.” And I said, “My blood pressure is high because my baby is in another hospital and I’m not with her.” I said, “I’m going to see her.” I said, “Even if you have to write in my notes, mother is, you know, not agreeing with medical opinion, I’m going. I’m going.” So we reached an agreement that I would go for an hour and so my partner and I went over to the hospital and I got to see her for an hour and it was just, it was so emotional seeing her for that first time, with all of the machinery and, you know, she had the silo* on and you know. So she’d had this first surgery and she just looked so helpless. And I felt helpless and I, you know, there was nothing I could do and I just, I was I was shocked, even though I’d seen, you know, thousands of pictures and I was, you know, this is what your baby will look like and I had a tour of the hospital ICU unit.
* Silo
Used as part of a staged repair for exomphalos and other abdominal wall defects. A temporary envelope of plastic sheeting (silo) is created outside the abdomen. The silo is made smaller over a period of days or even months, so that the abdominal contents are gradually pushed back inside the abdomen.
Amy was able to cuddle her daughter, and wanted to be able to take her baby straight home, but sadly that wasn’t going to be the case.
Amy was able to cuddle her daughter, and wanted to be able to take her baby straight home, but sadly that wasn’t going to be the case.
I did, I did see her so but they’d, well, they’d whisked her over and put the surgical sarong, and they’d wrapped her up and then gave her to him. And I, we weren’t expecting it. We, we I was, I was gobsmacked that, you know, he’s holding her. He brought her over and I was like, “Oh my goodness.” She just looked like a baby. You couldn’t tell she had a defect. They’d covered it, you know. She just looked healthy and, you know and you’re just like “give her to me”. I want to take my healthy baby and sadly, that wasn’t going to be the case. And you know, you just think in that moment, ‘I want my baby with me’ and it’s heart wrenching to have them somewhere where you’re not. It’s not what you expect.
Although.
I knew it was going to happen.
Yeah, yeah.
I was prepared. I was prepared.
Yeah, there’s only so much you can get your head round something.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
Amy said all she could see was her beautiful baby.
Amy said all she could see was her beautiful baby.
* Exomphalos
An abdominal wall defect, that occurs when the baby’s tummy wall does not develop fully in the womb. Some of the baby’s intestines and sometimes other organs such as the liver, develop outside the tummy and are covered by the umbilical cord.
Amy had expected to be able to bond with her daughter immediately. But when she was in intensive care it was hard. The first time she held her was like “Christmas”.
Amy had expected to be able to bond with her daughter immediately. But when she was in intensive care it was hard. The first time she held her was like “Christmas”.
Amy felt that the only thing she could do for her daughter was sit by her side. It was a small bit of control, in a situation where she didn’t really have any.
Amy felt that the only thing she could do for her daughter was sit by her side. It was a small bit of control, in a situation where she didn’t really have any.
Amy said it was the one thing she was able to control during those frightening weeks when her daughter was in hospital.
Amy said it was the one thing she was able to control during those frightening weeks when her daughter was in hospital.
Amy was terrified about the outcome for her daughter who had exomphalos. For her, looking at the worst case scenario was her way of coping.
Amy was terrified about the outcome for her daughter who had exomphalos. For her, looking at the worst case scenario was her way of coping.
I can’t speak for everyone but I wasn’t prepared for that and what do I do with myself and, and who am I? My identity was a mother that, do you know, that was it. And then, when we finally left after three months, I just I didn’t know who I was anymore and I didn’t, I was so scared, you know, and here I was this older mother and the expectation that I would be fine going home with this baby and I was petrified. I had been in hospital where she’d been monitored every second of every day. I remember the first week we moved out of ICU, she took a turn, her breathing, when we were on the unit. So I was alone with her in the room and her breathing became laboured and I was petrified. It was in the evening. The nursing staff was, you know, skeletal and it was smaller staff. Not the doctors walking around and I was petrified. I was so scared watching her and feeling like I can’t do anything, where’s, you know, please come quick and I mean the nursing staff was excellent. They came to and they, I think they had to calm me down more than, you know. She quickly was fine but it really, really frightened me and I thought, will we have to go back to ICU and is this a longer road? And I think you read into every little thing that happens to your child. You, I don’t know, for me, it was just making it bigger. But and my husband was saying, you know, “Is it, are you just.” I, he, he was just kind of phrasing it like, “You’re seeing everything negatively.”
But I think for me, it just was about how I coped. I had to look at the worst case scenario, like when she was in me and I still was, “She might die.” And I had to keep on a path for me, you know. Some people might be different, they might just think, “My child is going to live. I’m going to stay positive and optimistic and this is how I have to cope.” For me I had to always think that she might still die and it was horrible to hold that beside you. But for me, it would be the only way I could cope if she did. I had to be realistic I guess. I just always kept that and I probably asked, you know, the surgeon more than once about, you know, what’s the possibility? And I mean he can’t tell but I was still asking.
* Exomphalos
An abdominal wall defect, that occurs when the baby’s tummy wall does not develop fully in the womb. Some of the baby’s intestines and sometimes other organs such as the liver, develop outside the tummy and are covered by the umbilical cord.
Amy’s partner coped by being all light-hearted. She knew it was helpful for her and his way of coping, she also got pretty annoyed by it.
Amy’s partner coped by being all light-hearted. She knew it was helpful for her and his way of coping, she also got pretty annoyed by it.
Amy was at her daughter’s bedside from morning until night. Her mum stayed with her, but she isolated herself from friends. She kept herself going with a diary.
Amy was at her daughter’s bedside from morning until night. Her mum stayed with her, but she isolated herself from friends. She kept herself going with a diary.
So had the first surgery, the first day and then had, we think there must have been about twelve different procedures as time went on. So I stayed at the hospital. I sat at the, I was there every day. I spent the whole time, probably didn’t a lot of self-care so there probably wasn’t a lot, probably something I would say to parents, who are going through it, is probably to look after yourself and I think probably everybody on the other side says that. But when you’re in that moment, it’s so difficult. I spent a lot of time at that bedside. I would, I make notes. I kept a diary.
Amy’s daughter had an exomphalos and had had a silo stitched on when she first saw her in intensive care.
Amy’s daughter had an exomphalos and had had a silo stitched on when she first saw her in intensive care.
And I guess, one of the things for me was always the risk of infection, and it was something I was always really, really worried about, you know. Because it’s so life threatening for these little babies and I, you know, was really worried about infections. And even when she’d had the surgery then, you know, worried, you know, would that have exposed her to infection and so there was always that element of worry and then, obviously, seeing her and knowing afterwards that she wouldn’t be as well as she had when she’d gone in. And I think that’s it, when your child has surgery, you expect, at the other end, it’s going to be very positive and, you know, you’re child is in for surgery, they’re coming out better. And my child would come out, not worse, because it had to be done but she would, her little body would, didn’t cope as well.
Amy found the setbacks after her daughter’s surgeries very difficult, but trusted that in the long term they were worth it.
Amy found the setbacks after her daughter’s surgeries very difficult, but trusted that in the long term they were worth it.
You know, it was tricky though because the surgeries put more pressure on her. She, she’d be fine before the surgery and then she wasn’t afterwards and it was hard because you’d see that, how much pressure it was putting on your child’s breathing or, you know, and how, how they weren’t coping with it. But it was necessary and, you know, those are the moments like was this the best course of treatment for her? Was this the way that she should have been treated here? But you could see the progress and, you know, I at some level, you give away that control and say, “I have to trust that they know the best thing for her”. They’re, you know, they’re looking at her, the whole picture of her medically. And doing the best thing for her.
Amy was so happy to take her daughter out for the first time. The hospital lent her an old fashioned push chair, and she was thrilled to do something normal.
Amy was so happy to take her daughter out for the first time. The hospital lent her an old fashioned push chair, and she was thrilled to do something normal.
And, I’m pushing her along. I was just so happy. It was freezing that night, freezing. We had her totally wrapped up but I was like, this is so normal. We’re going out, you know, taking my baby outside. The first time she’d ever breathed air. So she was well enough that I could take her out and it just felt like, when we got that chance to go out, it was like, this is it. We’re going home soon and I, but I tell you that date they said we could take her home, oh, just so incredible when you hear that, you know. It’s fearful. It brings out new fear but that, yes, it’s your chance. You’ve, you know, she’s done it. You know, you feel so proud of your child that you know you’ve done it. You’ve done it.
* Exomphalos
An abdominal wall defect that occurs when the baby’s tummy wall does not develop fully in the womb. Some of the baby’s intestines and sometimes other organs such as the liver, develop outside the tummy and are covered by the umbilical cord.
Amy wasn’t prepared for the emotional rollercoaster she was on. She was petrified to go home with her baby. In hospital she had been closely monitored and had doctors and nurses all around.
Amy wasn’t prepared for the emotional rollercoaster she was on. She was petrified to go home with her baby. In hospital she had been closely monitored and had doctors and nurses all around.
I can’t speak for everyone but I wasn’t prepared for that and what do I do with myself and, and who am I? My identity was a mother that, do you know, that was it. And then, when we finally left after three months, I just I didn’t know who I was anymore and I didn’t, I was so scared, you know, and here I was this older mother nd the expectation that I would be fine going home with this baby and I was petrified. I had been in hospital where she’d been monitored every second of every day. I remember the first week we moved out of ICU, she took a turn, her breathing, when we were on the unit. So I was alone with her in the room and her breathing became laboured and I was petrified. It was in the evening. The nursing staff was, you know, skeletal and it was smaller staff. Not the doctors walking around and I was petrified. I was so scared watching her and feeling like I can’t do anything, where’s, you know, please come quick and I mean the nursing staff was excellent. They came to and they, I think they had to calm me down more than, you know. She quickly was fine but it really, really frightened me and I thought, will we have to go back to ICU and is this a longer road? And I think you read into every little thing that happens to your child. You, I don’t know, for me, it was just making it bigger. But and my husband was saying, you know, “Is it, are you just.” I, he was just kind of phrasing it like, “You’re seeing everything negatively.”
Amy made a scrapbook which will help as she talks to her daughter about how she is different and unique as a girl who had exomphalos.
Amy made a scrapbook which will help as she talks to her daughter about how she is different and unique as a girl who had exomphalos.
I thought ‘Perfect’ [laughs]. That’s what I needed to hear. “That’s right, you are. You’re special.” And it was, it’s emotional but it was very nice to hear her and I thought I want her to always think that, you know. She wears a bikini now. You know, she was down at the pool last night in a bikini and I just think, be proud of your body. You know, you don’t have a belly button. They’d created one but, as she grew, it just flattened out and so she doesn’t have one and she has a, we call it her Harry Potter scar. She’s got a long scar down her tummy and she knows about it but she’s not interested. It’s just that she doesn’t have a belly button. One of the older children at her school said to me, “Oh the other kids know that she doesn’t have a belly button.” And I thought, ‘oh’, you know, this is a child that’s not in her class but the other kids know and I said, “Oh.” She said, “Yeah, we think it’s cool she doesn’t have a belly button.” I’m like, you know, [laughs] fantastic.
You know, I just I don’t want her to feel different. And it’s hard in those years growing up to feel that, you know, your different and, and she is different and it is unique and but I want her to celebrate that rather than being ashamed of it.
* Exomphalos
An abdominal wall defect that occurs when the baby’s tummy wall does not develop fully in the womb. Some of the baby’s intestines and sometimes other organs such as the liver, develop outside the tummy and are covered by the umbilical cord.
Amy felt that she wasn’t always clear who was making decisions about her daughter’s care, and what role she and her partner had.
Amy felt that she wasn’t always clear who was making decisions about her daughter’s care, and what role she and her partner had.
Even now I don’t know who then should have told me some of the things. You know, Like I say one nurse told me about the tracheostomy and then got in trouble for telling me.
And I felt really bad but somebody should have told me. So I thought, no, you know, I felt really bad for her but somebody should have told me so yeah. Where was I going? [Laughs].
Just other investigations.
Yeah, so sorry, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah so there probably could have been a way, so I didn’t always know so, at one point, they said to me about the tracheostomy thinking she had small lungs. And in the end she didn’t because they had done that investigation but they hadn’t got the results before they’d come to me about the tracheostomy. So for me, at some points, it was a bit of head scratching thinking, well, I would have thought you would have already done the investigations before coming to me. And then with her heart, all of a sudden there’s somebody doing a scan of her heart. So I don’t know if they necessarily had to tell me. Maybe it would be more, I guess maybe courtesy or maybe just keeping us in the loop about, you know, because if they had have found something.
I, for me, I guess maybe it’d be different for different parents or maybe there’s somebody up front to say, “How much information do you want to know?” I don’t know. Maybe there’s some way of doing that piece of work with the parents and, and saying, “Where are you at?” And, you know, even if that is a tick box we do when we first come in about what support we need or what have you. But I think that was always an issue for me. It was about information gathering, so ‘where do I get it from and who’s the best placed person to give it to me?’ And that was something I was always trying to sus out. I really don’t know where that was even now.
You know, who was the decision maker? I don’t know. I don’t know because sometimes it was the surgeon, sometimes the consultant and about them working together and I don’t know where we fell in that kind of group of people.
Sometimes it felt like we were part of it and sometimes it didn’t and I think it depended on how strongly I felt about something as well.