Antenatal Screening
Special reasons for wanting antenatal screening
Special reasons for having a scan include
- A family history of health conditions that scans can pick up.
- Previous pregnancy loss (miscarriage)
Family history
Three women had family members born with health conditions that can be diagnosed through screening. They said that they would not have continued with their pregnancy, if the same condition was found in their baby. They didn’t feel the same about other conditions, though (see also 'Attitudes to disability and termination').
One woman’s brother had severe learning disabilities and no cause had been found. She’d also had an early miscarriage. She was impressed with the genetic counselling and testing she was offered.
Another woman had two family members with Down’s syndrome and wanted to find out if her baby was affected. Genetic tests had shown that they did not have the rare, inherited form of Down’s syndrome, but she still wanted to find out.
She was anxious about her family history of Down's syndrome, although genetic tests showed no evidence it was inherited.
She was anxious about her family history of Down's syndrome, although genetic tests showed no evidence it was inherited.
Had anybody ever talked to you before that about genetic risk? I mean, had the family been counselled or...?
Yeah, well, my brother's got Down's syndrome, and my maternal aunt, my mum's sister, had a Down's syndrome although she died as a baby.
So when I was about ten I went and had a blood test, along with my brother and my mother, to see if he was a translocation Down's syndrome because that is the only hered-, directly hereditary type of Down's syndrome. And he's not. He's a straight trisomy 21.
So officially any genetic risk I haven't, I have no increased risk compared to any other person, healthy woman of the same age as I am at that particular time. However, we haven't continued, we haven't cloned all of the human genome.
We haven't decoded all of it, and to me the fact that my mother and her mother both had Down's syndrome children I think it's pretty unlikely that there isn't a gene somewhere that is coding for increased probability of either producing a cell with two twenty-first chromosome bits on it in the egg or not detecting that problem and not doing selective abortion - you know, the body not doing selective abortion when it should.
One woman’s mum had a baby that was stillborn with water on the brain (hydrocephalus). In her first pregnancy she was offered an early scan. The scan didn’t find any problems with the baby’s brain. She was reassured but it was distressing for her mother to have to think about it again.
Other women thought about their own mother's feelings too. One decided not to tell her mother she was pregnant until she’d had the results of the nuchal fold scan at 12 weeks. Another waited until after she had a genetic counselling.
She decided not to tell her mother she was pregnant at first because it would make her anxious too.
She decided not to tell her mother she was pregnant at first because it would make her anxious too.
If I was going to do that, I didn't want, I wanted to save her the pain if that was going to happen. And I felt, well, if I wasn't telling her I couldn't tell anyone apart from actually my partner. In the event I did tell other people. I had a nuchal fetal scan and after that it was a very low risk, and so at that point I did tell a couple of my closest friends and my mum and dad. But I didn't make it general knowledge until after the amnio, even though my closest knew.
So I didn't really want people, I didn't want to acknowledge that it was really happening for definite, as a sort of self-protection thing. I was very hopeful that it was going to happen. I was very hopeful everything was going to be okay, but I didn't want to tell the world just in case it went wrong. I thought it was unwise to do so.
For some people the results of screening and genetic testing were enough to reassure them. One explained that she felt satisfied she had done everything she could.
Another woman with a family history of Down's syndrome wanted be completely certain that her baby was not affected. Her screening results showed a low chance of Down’s syndrome, but she wanted a diagnostic test to find out for sure. She eventually had amniocentesis, and in her second pregnancy decided straight away this was what she wanted.
She decided not to have a CVS (Chorionic Villus Sampling) when her nuchal scan screening results came back low chance, but was still considering amniocentesis.
She decided not to have a CVS (Chorionic Villus Sampling) when her nuchal scan screening results came back low chance, but was still considering amniocentesis.
He referred me to a London specialist hospital, and I went up there and had a nuchal fetal scan, with the full expectation of having a CVS at the same time, at the appropriate number of weeks, which was just over eleven weeks. And obviously the CVS carries a 2% risk of miscarriage and the consultant who I saw, a lady consultant, was very, very good at helping me grapple with all the different risk factors, obviously on a purely intellectual level.
You see, the issue that I had was on a purely intellectual level, it was absolutely ridiculous to put my fetus through a 1 in 50 chance of not making it when the risk according to the nuchal fold examination and my age, my combined risk, was 1 in over 5,000 that there was a Down's syndrome risk. Even when you took my age out of that equation it was still a very high, a very low risk, about 1 in 1,000. Maybe it was slightly less than that but it was certainly a very low risk.
However, I didn't really want, I wasn't really sure that I could continue with the pregnancy without knowing for certain, but I didn't want to risk, you know, losing a perfectly healthy fetus, which he probably was. So I found this quite difficult, and I'd gone up in the full expectation of having a CVS, but my partner really didn't want me to have it, because of the risk of miscarriage, and I was very mixed about it once the results had come through. I was quite clear that if at that point it had looked average or below average risk, I think I would've gone ahead with it but it was very low risk.
So I talked with the consultant and she - I was going to say persuaded, which is the wrong word, really - but we sort of reached, helped, she helped me reach a sort of compromise situation which was that as the risk was very low, instead of going through the high risk of a CVS, and given I was only twenty-nine, that instead I would go for an amnio - well, I would leave the decision but I could always have an amnio later which at least was a lower risk of miscarriage, but still would give me a definitive answer.
But in the meantime I could go back a few weeks later and she could do a soft markers check. So soft markers is whereby there's a lot of other health problems are, which are associated with Down's syndrome where the risk is much greater if you have Down's syndrome than if you're Joe Bloggs, but obviously Joe Bloggs can get these things too.
A further scan showed the baby was developing as expected, but she still wanted amniocentesis to know for certain.
A further scan showed the baby was developing as expected, but she still wanted amniocentesis to know for certain.
And I went up and all the soft features were okay, and I was still talking about having an amnio. And the consultant, she gave me some time to go away and think about it and talk to my partner and then she talked to me about it.
And I remember saying to her 'What do you think?' and she said 'Well, I shouldn't really say what I think, because it's nothing to do with what I think.' And I said 'Yes, but I'd really value your opinion on this, although obviously it's just your opinion.' And she said, 'Well, I don't think for one minute that this fetus, this baby is going, is, has Down's, not for one minute.
But I don't think that you can live with the uncertainty of not knowing for definite, and you have to get through another twenty-two weeks of pregnancy, or twenty-four weeks of pregnancy and I don't want you to be worried all that time, all the way through to when it's born, when he's born (we knew that then), that things are okay.'
I thought she made a lot of sense, but sort of time was ticking a-by and I had to make my decision. I was also getting married on the Saturday, and she said to me, 'Well, really the chances of this child having Down's and you needing to - you know, you've said' - I'd said quite clearly from the start that I wouldn't, I would opt for an abortion if I didn't, if he was Down's.
So the issue of trying to find out as early as possible wasn't a really big issue, because he almost certainly was okay. It was almost just like a double check. And yes, there was that vague chance that he wouldn't be okay, and that was niggling at the back of my head and that's what was messing me up, and it was an emotional need that I had to address.
But as everything had, all the screening had come back with a very low risk, that really to think, 'Oh well, you need to find out as soon as possible, because if you're going to abort a child it's better to do it as soon as possible before they've developed as much isn't a huge issue because it's almost definitely going to be okay.'
Previous miscarriage
Loss of a pregnancy (miscarriage) could affect whether people wanted to have screening. Several people we talked to had experienced miscarriages. Some had not been aware there was a problem until they came for a scan at around 12 weeks.
She found out at a scan that her first pregnancy was a blighted ovum (the baby had not survived).
She found out at a scan that her first pregnancy was a blighted ovum (the baby had not survived).
But your whole body is in the process of pregnancy, so I'd had, you know, the morning sickness, the tiredness, every symptom of pregnancy, but yet there was no baby there. So basically after that sort of major shock, complete disappointment and sort of heartbreak, for all my other pregnancies I've been scanned between sort of 7 and 8 weeks, just to make sure, you know, that something has happened.
And also because I feel so sick when I'm pregnant, to go through 14 weeks and there's kind of absolutely nothing is quite hard work. So I've always been quite pro going for scans and having a certain, you know, the information that they've got to give you.
This experience made them feel nervous and negative in later pregnancies. Some had earlier and more frequent scans to reassure them. Having already lost a baby made some people want to have every test available, but it made others unsure.
Her experience of finding her first pregnancy had not survived made her nervous about screening in other pregnancies.
Her experience of finding her first pregnancy had not survived made her nervous about screening in other pregnancies.
And how do you think that first experience has affected the way you think about antenatal screening?
I think it's always made me incredibly nervous before every scan. I mean I've never seen it as a sort of joyful thing. I've always been having my fingers crossed, thinking, you know, 'Please, it's all alright, or there's something there, you know. There's not something wrong'. I mean, I've never sort of taken the family along. It's always been a very sort of medical thing that, you know, I find very stressful, because of that sort of, definitely because of that first experience.
I think sometimes with babies, when you really really want a baby, you know, you're so nervous that it's not going to work out, that you're sort of always praying and hoping, that each scan is fine. You just don't want that bad news. And I think it's sometimes hard to let go. If you've had a bad experience like that, it's hard to let go of it, and see each pregnancy as an isolated situation and that, you know, it probably won't happen again. But you just sort of have that fear.
One couple had experienced miscarriages. They had the nuchal fold scan and the result was low chance but high for their age. Amniocentesis carries a small risk of causing a miscarriage and they decided not to take that risk.
The fear of losing another baby after two miscarriages affected their discussion of their Down’s syndrome screening results.
The fear of losing another baby after two miscarriages affected their discussion of their Down’s syndrome screening results.
Mother' I started to fret a bit about it, because I'd felt very positive and, 'Well, yeah, cool - let's go ahead. This is, it's fine, it's reduced, I'm sure that's a positive thing.' But then I started to get doubts and not understanding what the figures meant. So I rang Antenatal Results and Choices, and they were just absolutely brilliant.
It was, she was so brilliant, the woman I spoke to. It was, because I said, I explained what had happened, and where I was at in my thinking, and we talked about it and I kind of started to say, "Well, OK, so it's quite a high risk, but we could go and have amniocentesis. And I know there's a 1 in 99 chance that I would miscarry if I have amnio, and it might tell me there's nothing wrong with the baby and I'll miscarry, and I couldn't live with it, I couldn't risk losing it.'
And I just felt, 'Well, the nuchal fold scan says, 'Yes, there's a reduced, you know, reduced, lengthened the odds, if you like, that it was going to be okay'. And I'd rather, I then decided - and I think we both sort of felt this after talking about it - that actually I would rather have a baby with Down's than risk losing a baby that was OK.
Father' A perfectly healthy baby, yeah.
Mother' And the chances were that my baby would be perfectly OK.
Father' And I guess also the fact that you'd miscarried twice before sort of made you feel...
Mother' Made me feel more scared about it. And I just felt, 'Well, it's going to be, whatever happens' - I think after we'd talked about it and talked about it - I just felt, 'Well, whatever happens we'll have a baby. And it might be a baby with Down's syndrome, but that's OK. They'll still be our baby, and we'll have a baby.'
So I put all of this thinking, but I felt I was not making very rational decisions. I felt I wasn't necessarily making that decision very rationally, that I was being quite hormonal and that it was not really a, that it wasn't a very sound decision. So I rang Antenatal Results and Choices and basically just talked through all of this with the person on the phone. And she said, "Well, it sounds like you're being perfectly sensible, that's absolutely right."
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